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you cannot tell me that you know the difference between `useradd` and `adduser` off the top of your head.

POSIX tools are _not_ discoverable!


the paedophile government is going to fine a foreign power for blocking a CSAM generation app? who could have predicted this‽

his roommate wasn't male

Jensson is a blatant transphobe. Call a spade a spade

i don't wanna get [flagged] for being uncivil, and i'm unsure on this website's transphobia policies

It's Jensson who should be flagged but HN has a lot of transphobes that will vouch for each other

Yes he was. The investigating authorities confirmed this, and that Robinson was dating him, in their indictment.

citation absolutely needed on that one.

First paragraph of page 7: https://archive.today/GJP8L

what an incredibly USAmerican-centric comment.

That's OK and fair I think, even as a European. HN is fairly US-centric, both submissions, users and comments. I think after more than a decade here, you get to used to everyone assuming you're American and capitalist by default, which given the company who owns HN, kind of makes sense ;)

I like the adjacent conversations just as much, or more.

We(?) more or less want this to be a place of general curiosity,

perhaps revolving loosely around those things, but not tightly clung to them.


i've never used nushell, but i've always felt that people have been sleeping on PowerShell.

yes, it was _originally_ only for Windows, but PowerShell 6+ uses .NET Core, which is OS independent. this means that a few helper functions like GeneratePassword[0] are gone, but it's _mostly_ at parity with .NET.

the Verb-Noun structure can be confusing at first, but once you know the approved verbs[1], you can usually guess your way through command discovery, which is not something i can say for most POSIX tools (useradd and adduser do different things!!)

it's also object oriented by design, with default aliases like ?[2] and %[3], querying structured data is a breeze.

- want to check a CSV? Import-CSV[4].

- want to call a REST/SOAP endpoint? Invoke-RestMethod[5] has you covered.

- DNS queries? Resolve-DnsName[6]

as it's built on top of .NET, you get the whole CLR[7] at your fingertips! you can make a TCP client[8] in PowerShell, or even just write C# directly in your terminal[9] and execute it the same way.

such a flexible and useful language, even if it is a little slow and owned by micro$oft. but it _is_ open source[10]!

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[0]: https://learn.microsoft.com/dotnet/api/system.web.security.m...

[1]: https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/scripting/developer/c...

[2]: https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/module/microsoft.powe...

[3]: https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/module/microsoft.powe...

[4]: https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/module/microsoft.powe...

[5]: https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/module/microsoft.powe...

[6]: https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/module/dnsclient/reso...

[7]: https://learn.microsoft.com/dotnet/standard/clr

[8]: https://learn.microsoft.com/dotnet/api/system.net.sockets.tc...

[9]: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/scripting/weekend-scripter-ru...

[10]: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell


As a prior contributor to PowerShell, I think part of this obscurity reason is how they neglected their community. This was evident in their merged PR history only containing commits from Microsoft developers.

I use nushell now, and its community is fantastic. It may face breaking changes every so often, but it has a much faster execution speed and more features if you're not tied into the .NET ecosystem.


that's completely fair! i've never felt the need/confident enough to attempt to contribute changes to the language as a whole (writing my own PowerShell is usually enough to fix the problem c:), but i can understand why that would be frustrating!

Powershell is pretty great, though I am constantly bit by issues with filenames having [ or ] in them and end up having to pass -LiteralPath to everything, which is frustrating and a constant source of bugs in any other scripts that do not do that.

can you not just quote the filepaths? either as a 'literal string' or as one with "string $interpolation" (provided you have no dollars in your file names)

i don't understand why more tech savvy people don't use on-device DNS blocking like with RethinkDNS

then run the mail servers locally?

if you have routing issues with your primary dns server, you will not be able to perform a clean shutdown (or run anything with sudo, apparently)

cool! self-hostable?

tell me more about this wireless touchscreen?

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