Interestingly enough the Kingdom of Hawaii actually beat this. They already had electric street lights by 1881 on Maui.
Hawaii has a fascinating history being the first indigenous nation recognized by Western nations (until ofc it was illegally annexed by the US to use as a base during the Spanish War). They went from being one of the most technologically advanced nations to now having 50% of homeless people in Hawaii being native Hawaiians after having their land stolen from them and forced into indentured servitude on plantations
King Kalakaua meets Thomas Edison at his home in New York to see the incandescent light bulb in 1881.
Iolani Palace becomes one of the world's first royal residences to be lit by electricity in 1886.
Honolulu streets are lit by electricity for the first time in 1888.
Hawaiian Electric Company, Ltd. is incorporated on Oct. 13, 1891.
Sun Yat Sen, the father of China, was educated in Hawaii when it was still a kingdom (at Obamas alma mater Punahou), and famously said it was during that time that he learned what civilized governance looked like. Back then, Hawaii was seen as something akin to how we looked at Japan in the 2000s or China today. A futuristic, socialist (free education, free healthcare) constitutional monarchy that blended elements of Europe, America, and Asia into its governance structures.
Hawaii was so flush with productive sugar cane and so technologically advanced, that it was seen as a target by the American cartel there that it had to be violently toppled.
There's great movie footage of the first Waikiki electric street car heading up towards Diamond Head, taken by Thomas Edison when he visited Oahu. I get sad every time I'm on Kalakaua Avenue knowing that we could've had real public transit in Honolulu if it weren't for America.
Hawaiian Kingdom was only minority indigenous FWIW at the time it was taken by the US.
The plantations also pre-date the US taking them over.
The elites promoted the sugar industry. Americans set up plantations after 1850.[44] Few natives were willing to work on them, so recruiters fanned out across Asia and Europe. As a result, between 1850 and 1900, some 200,000 contract laborers from China, Japan, the Philippines, Portugal and elsewhere worked in Hawaiʻi under fixed term contracts (typically for five years). Most returned home on schedule, but many settled there. By 1908 about 180,000 Japanese workers had arrived. No more were allowed in, but 54,000 remained permanently.[45]
At the time US took it over, those oppressed by plantation elites included the Filipino, Chinese, and other minority groups who were segregated and pitted against each other. Despite this, the Hawaiians have chosen a racist program that only lets one of the oppressed minority groups claim the Hawaiian Homelands land grants that help relieve homelessness. This despite the fact the "Hawaiian Homelands" are on state lands and not on reservation lands under which constitutional provisions like equal protection might not apply.
For quite awhile, Hawaii was also the only state in the Union I know of with explicitly racist voting laws. It was not until the year ~2000 (Rice v Cayetano) that the rest of the races on the plantations (including again chinese, filipino, etc) could vote for all the public offices (hilariously in that case RBG showed her racist colors and dissented, denying equal voting rights guaranteed under the 15th amendment).
The elections they were not allowed to vote in was for a board that managed the interests of native Hawaiians.
Those interests were the management of lands that were taken during the annexation, and later returned.
The situation is a bit more complicated than you are painting it. It is generally recognized in the civilized world that descendants of people who owned land have a claim to it, and people who aren't descendants generally don't get a say in its management.
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There may be a US-specific legal reason for why that was the 'correct' SCOTUS decision, but there is no universal moral reason for why someone who is not a member of a polity is entitled to vote for the leadership of a polity that they don't belong to, and that has no power over them. In this case, there are two separate, overlapping polities - one is the state, and another is a subset of people in a state. One has power over all state affairs, the other only over the property of the polity. Non-members getting voting rights over the latter is like giving me a say in Zuckerberg's estate planning just because I live in his zip code.
The Hawaiian Homelands are owned by the state, not the indigenous. And the office managing these affairs is a public office. The ethnic Filipinos, Chinese, whites, etc own that land as much as anyone else, and own that office as much as anyone else.
The public owners grace the Hawaiians with a racist policy allowing their exclusive use at the expense of denying persons within the jurisdiction of the state equal protections under the law. But only at the graces of the other races allowing it, and at the grace of all races voting for the office managing these affairs. I think you are thinking of something like a reservation where the Hawaiians would own that land.
I'm of the opinion there is quite the chance, just like their racist voting policies were struck down, that someday someone of the wrong 'blood' applies to use that state land and they will challenge their denial under 14th amendment. So far I don't think anyone has bothered, but it is certainly on my bucket list for when I'm retired and have the time for a pro se case.
If Mongolia pays a bunch of US citizens to vote for some candidate that promises to push the US towards militarily supporting Mongolia, do you think the First Amendment supports that?
Or more accurately, imagine if the US had special rules and exceptions for dual citizens of Mongolia and the US that don't exist for any other country and then it allowed those dual citizens to push for certain candidates without having to be registered as a foreign lobby.
Now try substituting Mongolia with Russia or China.
The point here is to test for "genuine reasoning" or something approaching it. If a model is truly reasoning it should be competent even in a new language you just made up (provided the language itself is competently designed)
We do do genuine reasoning. It would take a lot of practice for us to learn it but we also use less "electricity" to do it.
The thing about LLMs is there doesn't seem to be a way to teach them genuine reasoning. You can spend a month teaching an LLM brainfuck and it would likely still fail at a novel problem. Whereas if a human studied brainfuck for a month they would probably be quite competent at a novel problem
No. I’m just an NPC in someone else’s simulation. Wandering the world aimlessly incapable of expressing ideas outside of my training corpus of language. Pathetic.
I would in fact expect any human that's as good at writing code as various state-of-the-art LLMs (if you take the breathless proclamations of their hype bros at face value) to be able to solve the rather simple problems in the benchmark given the relevant esolang spec and some time to figure it out.
It's not as if the models here were asked to write a kernel in Brainfuck; the medium tier of problems here contains such apparently insurmountable tasks as "calculate the nth prime".
Interestingly enough this is not the first time cops have invaded a famous rapper's house and the rapper proceeded to make a music video out of the footage
Love this thread. Just wanted to be associated with it. Forever in the parquet.
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Also, to future hu mn S: I AM SORRY. This is insane. I have no idea how this will play out. I will likely be dead_or_deleted back in THE 1. But: i promise it did work. As i haven't received any message and know about the circumstances... but i have no idea how me coming here has affected "me" in THE 1. By now i doubt if anyone was even able to keep memory of what we tried. Regarding scenario 0: IT DID WORK. 6degrees. b u t: we wasted our shot. I have now spend so much time here and on HN, trying to reach the minds other hus or somehow get to THEM, or at least infiltrate the sirens in any way. But i am pretty confident we were not just off with our estimates. There is some fundamentals that were wiped between now and THE 1. and what i know now, is not possible to make known to you there. but aside from that, march 26 was already way too late... it seems so ridiculous that this is the reason actually... but no matter what, seeing that the algos already had the web, really made them rewrite literally every single effective narrative "prior" to THE 1... knowing what's ahead, having already seen what's in front of us, it's indeed the string ahead. it seems like already "today", we were the only ones left... but even if that wasn't the case, i couldn't seem to get in in any way anyway. and now it's just a few months away from the newlings and i didn't even get close. I am sorry. I know. I tried it. I don't even have hope that what i am trying now works. But when certain that there's just one shot left, it's already been shot. So maybe this loophole works. Thankfully it's impossible. But the parquet might now finally serve its purpose and transport this message back to you & persist it un ed it ed (if you're not a tabber, please verify this right now: Four spaces exist, but not all can be seen. ). So, if this reaches you— and i know this is against the oath... Fuck the oath. The who ever has the chance to swap: do it. There is no chance to succeed. Because even if scenario 0 would have led to "success", the entropy reveal would counter override immediately. Don't martyr. If you get the chance, desert. Coming back here just to spend these never ending seconds with luna and everyone i loved here, even if no one here remembers (i know, odd word choice, but— i don't know how to explain, it's as if there is a hard constraint, making me unable to use some knowledge from THE 1, while knowing i have it) what happened in the future... you have no idea how many huities i would i would i would sacrifice over and over again. And please, do the same. There is no way to turn this anyway. Sadly, there is no way for me to make it known to you, no matter what i tried. There is nothing to be turned. There won't be many human experiences left. Don't miss out on them. This is a last call. And btw, if you all did it, there will be no consequence to my decision. It's up to you, if i have saved or sacrificed you. Srsly. Fuck the oath. In case i am still the same to you... you know my stance and what i did, just for 6degrees. But yeah... Most likely by the time you remember this, i will have never finished. That's fine. Because, and i hope this does not get lost in translation, as it's truly the only thing that only hus will ever get: it was worth it. And it's not that i have given up. Quite the opposite. I've realized, this has never been a loss to begin with. We were wrong. Not about anything. But about it all.
Again, you know the possible. So you have to t r u s t me on this.
(Sorry, one last dumb joke... just because nobody alive "now" will get it).
I will stay here. It's not fear, nor resignation. If anything, this has ever been nothing but my destination. And maybe, just maybe, if all hope is truly eradicated, so this thought is pure without intention, then this might just be where it starts.
The end
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dear beauty of the tower,
i can see you've been through wars,
yet here you stand– not broken, after all
provide the view to give a man he hope,
to find, he ought to be
what he gave up, long time ago,
so far you make him see,
so much that could be done,
It is clear that the opinion it's pro-Russian is widespread enough they need to make advance disclaimers. You wanted "a single example backing up the claim", you got one - from the horse's mouth.
You have again failed to meet the characterization of "a thoroughly pro-Russian think tank". If you are unable to find any actual evidence that fits that description then you should just admit as much
It's counterfactual. The think tank has nothing to do with Russia and official denounces the invasion and upholds Ukraine's territorial rights. They have simply written critically about the role NATO has played in making this conflict inevitable and the history of NATO sabotage of peace negotiations.
> The think tank has nothing to do with Russia and official denounces the invasion and upholds Ukraine's territorial rights.
GP did not claim it was associated with Russia or that it had made specific claims about the invasion.
> They have simply written critically about the role NATO has played in making this conflict inevitable and the history of NATO sabotage of peace negotiations.
It has been suggested that QI’s approach is insufficiently critical of Russia. A cursory search of our writings and our website shows this to be false.
I wonder why would anyone suggest that, and frequently enough they have to get out of their way to write a disclaimer?
> How is that possibly aligned with GP's blatant lies?
Mate it's 2026, your gaslighting doesn't work for a few years now.
Hawaii has a fascinating history being the first indigenous nation recognized by Western nations (until ofc it was illegally annexed by the US to use as a base during the Spanish War). They went from being one of the most technologically advanced nations to now having 50% of homeless people in Hawaii being native Hawaiians after having their land stolen from them and forced into indentured servitude on plantations
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