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You should use your bridge off of a residential IP in the same city as your other devices, or else Facebook finds the activity suspicious.


It does. I use ntfy with a ntfy server on one of my VPSs, and I use the official ntfy account on GMS as an intermediary.

It works fine, but I'll probably switch back to Matrix's push server at some point.

Edit: With Synapse + Element, obviously.


Thanks for sharing. Are you switching back because of pricing, or reliability issues?


Gitlab and Element's website structure is different. element.io is the site for the managed product, so even their "on-premise" installer is meant to be used in a commercial relationship. For install docs you'd probably have to purchase their product (which isn't available freely).

You probably want to read the open-source software's installation instructions at: https://github.com/vector-im/element-web

TLDR, check out the project, run `yarn install`, then edit the config file, then `yarn build`.

And, yes, that is all there is to it. It's significantly simpler to deploy than GitLab.

Finally, you keep mentioning self-hosting; you _can_ just use a non-self hosted application like the downloadable version of Element, SchildiChat, Fluffychat, or any other client.

No reason to bring hosting into the mix for the client, if that's causing concern.


Using an official build of element makes it feel less open, unless the builds are reproducible. Are they?

To me it looks like they come with proprietary stuff: https://element.io/pricing

Especially Group Sync seems like something to drive you into their paid offerings, I assume by keeping the code close to the vest.


Man at this point you're just looking for excuses.

You can host bridges yourself too

https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy/


This seems like goalpost moving.

You yourself say in a different comment that you are currently assessing Element: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34779070. Either you have a formed opinion Matrix, or you don't. Which one is it?

You keep saying Element instead of Matrix, and obviating the whole Matrix ecosystem. Matrix protocol has several server implementations, and many more things around: https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now

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How did you install Gitlab without an official build (such as the official docker images and Debian packages from their own APT repo)?


https://hub.docker.com/r/gitlab/gitlab-ce

> The Dockerfile used for building public images is in Omnibus Repository


Unless they installed conda on an Apple machine, because I'm pretty sure that constitutes original sin.


...and where do you go when AWS/Signal's servers go down?

How about choosing something that's federated? https://matrix.org/


I'm fine with Matrix, but I'm not seeing the people around me moving to it, even with a more friendly solution like Element. It's already hard to make them use Signal just because they want users to remember a pin...


Email

(I'm not kidding)


Delta.chat is an instant messenger implemented over email. Alternatively, it's an email client that looks like an instant messenger.


This is NPR One, no? That's why I've been using it - it gives you a nice steady stream of NPR's programming and outside podcasts, randomly sampled at first, which in time starts preferring your favored content (which it learns by you "liking" content).

https://one.npr.org/

Been listening to it for years, it's great stuff!


How did I have no idea this exists?!? Thank you for the pointer.


They used to include a blurb about it on all NPR podcasts. I think they removed it because local stations were complaing that they were diverting their listeners away from the local station to a centralized app. So it’s been more low key since then.


...because it's a different protocol with different needs that are satisfied by its own notation?

Edit: Just read Arathorn's comment above, very cool - I hadn't seen that one before.


I was on their Patreon for a while, but had to hop off because of financial fun.

Sadly none of the rewards are updated and the flair is no longer given out; at this point it makes sense to just see it as a donation.


Actually, the flair still seems to be given out.


Guess I was just skipped, then. C'est la vie - still a great project, and one worth sponsoring if you can (IMO).


Matrix[1] is trying to solve that issue, I'd highly recommend looking into it. I actually pipe most of my various "chat" networks (including WhatsApp) into it via bridges[2].

As you said, we in Europe are kind of forced to have WA installed, but at least you don't have to use it as your primary client if you don't want to. You can even deploy it to an Android VM and go completely headless, if you feel the need.

[1] https://matrix.org/

[2] https://matrix.org/bridges/


> As you said, we in Europe are kind of forced to have WA installed, but at least you don't have to use it as your primary client if you don't want to.

Haven't used WhatsApp for months and then only for a few days to talk to someone from US.

My friends were heavy WhatsApp users but we changed one group after another to Telegram after WhatsApp were brought.

Telegram is far from perfect though so I hope to move to Matrix within a few months.


An incognito browser would ignore all client-side cookies, so the Slack web client would not try to - say - resume a previous user's session or re-use any previously saved data.

Likewise, incognito mode will also ignore most cached web content, meaning all assets on the Slack web app will get loaded again from scratch. This "clean state" start could, theoretically, get around issues with old - potentially incorrect/outdated - assets being loaded, even though that really shouldn't happen under most circumstances.


Sure, but why does that indicate the issue probably wasn’t related to a code push, like the person I responded to said?


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