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what a silly definition of complete :)

> How about “I love children but having kids is super expensive”?

always surprises me when ppl say this when they clearly observe the opposite in action. whats going on here.


Every mouth to feed costs more. Baby formula seems like a racket. Diapers are expensive.

My oldest will need a laptop for school next year. It isn't optional or provided.

Maybe you need a bigger car because car seats take up a lot of room.

What if your kid decides they want to join a sports team? A friend of a friend told me they did the math on a year of competitive swimming. It was $10,000 by the time they were done with equipment and travel.

A trip to the dentist for my family of four is about $1000 for just cleanings. Braces for my oldest were $3000 if I could pay cash or $4000 to finance. You could skip dental care, but some might consider that neglect.

What if the school tells you to get your child tested? That costs about $3000 in my part of the world. Half of the kids on my block are neurodivergent somehow. What do you do?

In a less well off part of the world, most of these "concerns" probably disappear. I think we have pretty high expectations of parents that aren't poor.


Your arguments (explanations?) would seem way more relevant if they didn't go 100% counter to observation.

I don't know why you're trying to explain an outcome that is opposite of the observed outcome.

Are you saying that while more money is correlated with less fertility (the fact), that somehow even more money will reverse the trend and start going the other way?

Based on observed data, one could almost make the case that if only billionaires start stealing from the poor even more, then birth rates should go up.


It wasn't really supposed to be about money vs fertility rates. I was trying to provide some observed examples of why having more money might mean more expensive kids. Or how being poor means the cost and expectations are lower.

I've always believed that it isn't money itself, but access to healthcare and education that lower fertility rates. Money correlates really strongly with access to healthcare and education.

Having good education and healthcare leads to birth control and maybe an abortion if the BC fails.

When a family of three is making $15K a year, do you believe baby four, five and six were planned out in agonizing detail? Or do you think maybe they weren't planned at all?

And I do believe more money going around would help. If the perspective is "I can't afford it", those who are doing OK will not have children if they can help it.


The highest income you have, the more pressured you are to give them an expensive education, activities, etc. Everyone want their kids to do at least as well as themselves.

So it's expensive no matter what income bracket you're in.


just go for it. there is never a really good time to have a kid.

I am am so scared of losing my job in tech due to ai and not being able to support my family.

Take a deep breath and just learn whatever you need to learn. AI or otherwise.

You'll be fine. Being responsible for someone else gives you quite a bit of boost.


lets be real we are gonna lose our jobs to these kids

would be nice if it wasnt just ui but other form like voice narration, sounds ect

i am guessing you dont have kids. i get extra 2 hrs with my son that wouldnt trade for anything.

My kids are 12 and 13 - wfh was is getting very old for me, especially during the school holidays when I’m constantly in ‘dad mode’. Don’t get me wrong - I love them with all my soul but sometimes I really want a break.

Agreed, over the last 6 years I have been able to spend lots of time with my two kids. Would not trade that for anything.

I have kids and would prefer to work in-office or hybrid. There's lots of reasons people might want that.

claude code does this too.

I guess its more about trust in comments. I am reading every comment now with a sense of suspicion.

example

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47411166


I am guessing you have one 'good project' that you vibecoded :)

edit: Looks like you have tons of these spamming on HN

https://tendayweekcalendar.com/

https://codemindmap.com

https://meetingglass.com/

https://blackscreen1.com/

This really sucks. Hate these so much.

You comment history is not 'A bit of self-promotion' wtf. you do not give a shit even if ppl are calling you out for being disinginous and passing these off as something you discovered.


Yikes.

The first page of their comments go back 7 months. I don't agree that reaches the OPs bar for an 'explosion', but you do you.


> I have lived the absolute nightmares that evolve from the willful misunderstanding of this quote.

how do you know which code was written using this quote in mind.


He doesn't know, but that quote makes for a cool talking point. Software is slow or bloated because of budget, deadlines, and skill levels - not because of a quote.

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