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"Cryptocurrency is designed specifically, by virtue of its decentralized and trustless nature, to facilitate money laundering. "

No it's designed to eliminate debasement and inflation


It's required because of PoW.

I'd say every bank teller in the USA driving to work every day is a total waste of energy.


Ever since working in a finance company myself, I've realised that existing finance basically is doing proof of work. It's very hard to put my finger on it and come up with a coherent thesis, but so much of what they do is utterly pointless, yet somehow necessary. Take a walk through the City and you'll see grand buildings, but there's nothing going on in them. It's all just an illusion. The company I worked for had drones in call centres in out of town business parks in other parts of the country. The people working in the city were engaged in just completely wasting their time. We could also see into the Swiss Re building from up there. Nobody was inside. It was practically empty every day (this was before lockdown).

But yet it all seems necessary to build trust. Is it proof of work?


shitcoins be shitty yo!


Ahh yes the rising tide....

I'm still waiting for my 'trickles' mouth wide open, just awaitin'.


It is inarguable that increasing productivity and technology cause aggregate standard of living increases on a long enough time scale. We can quibble about localized effects, and it is true that technological change (for example) does sometimes leave some individuals behind temporarily. But in the very long history of humankind, never have so many lived so well. Never have so many lived with as much justifiable hope for a better future than in our recent years.


Honest question for the great minds who hang out here but; why don't we 'harvest' the landfills?

thanks

good-day.


Didn't they just declare AntiFa and Proud Boys terrorist groups? Better not wear black downtown after 9pm or you might catch a free "UBER".


It's not really the media though. It's respected doctors and their ep·i·de·mi·ol·o·gy.

Trump isn't pushing sound science.

He's hoping to buffalo people (like you) into thinking he's on to something. AND THE MEDIA IS SO AGAINST HIM. EVEN THO IT REALLY HELPS THE FAKE NEWS JUST WANTS TO HURT HIM. BECAUSE THEY LOVE HILLARY


Enlighten the graduates.

How is BTC centralized.

I'm waiting.


Bitcoin decision making is channeled down a funnel: Core Developers make suggestions and the Lead Developer (and those given commit access) sign off on those decisions. Those decisions are then voted for by miners who are (relatively) centralised in that roughly 5 mining pool companies control the vast majority of hashing power used to vote on those decisions. Meanwhile large wallet/exchange companies who control vast amounts of on-chain transactions can lobby miners to pick certain decisions by upgrading their nodes to reflect new rules (miners will want to follow large companies because they create liquidity for coins with the new rules and so they can sell their coins more easily and, theoretically, for a higher value). So while this is still a decentralised systems because multiple parties have a say, there are still lots of points of centralised control in the governance system. In other words, not everyone is equal. "Individual developers submit to those with commit access, individual miners submit to mining pool operators, and everyday users submit to Bitcoin companies" (478). The Lead Developer acts as a centralised decision maker, mining pools act like centralised voters, and Bitcoin companies act like centralised lobbyers. So there is a certain structure to Bitcoin governance.


This is not an accurate model of how bitcoin works. :(

Not at all.


Can you explain what's wrong with it?


It's difficult to do an analysis of a paper I cannot access, so my response was related to your description.

I talk some about why people who write Bitcoin software don't control anything this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21978934


Hi Greg, I'd be happy to send you a copy and would appreciate your input. My email can be found on my staff profile: https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/ics/people/adjunct_research...


Holders of Bitcoin also have a say in what forks are viable.


Holders of bitcoin are the only people who don't have a say. Buyers, miners and developers decide what is and is not viable (in roughly that order). Holders have a say only as much as they are still buyers.


How do you sell a fork if you aren’t holding it first?


By creating the fork on demand. The only part of Bitcoin that is technically hard to recreate from scratch is the huge hashing power of its mining network.

If buyers were happy with bitcoin-but-a-different-brand then there isn't much existing bitcoin holders can do to hold their market together. There is an unlimited supply of numbers out there, the constraint is numbers that are backed by whatever silly number of hashes per second the Bitcoin network is up to. The holders don't have any particular influence over that constraint.


I think we may not be understanding each other.


From the article abstract, it appears that this paper is more about how the governance behind modifying the bitcoin code itself is hierarchical, and not the separate but dependent issue of mining power for the current protocol being concentrated in relatively few hands:

"The overall political framework for altering the Bitcoin code is described as senatorial governance: a (de)centralized model of bureaucratic parties who compete to change the monetary policy (codified rules) of the protocol. This model shows how Bitcoin is not an autonomous system but is assembled and maintained via human discretion."


So 10 times (the current) 7 transactions per second = 70tps.

And it needs 3TB?? Cmon, that's not lot of gain for a lot of loss of control by the average.


They have a 75" for frikin $599 and its NOT smart.

I think you win the thread.

Cheap, dumb and large. (reminds me of my ex's)


I went for the 55 and mine just arrived. technically speaking it's better than the TCL and HiSense I was looking at. can't complain for the price, it's bright and fast response. its not future proof, so don't expect 120hz and there's absolutely no features to write about (I don't think even HDMI-CEC volume control works :\)

but hey $219 got me a big ass panel that won't report my porn habits to the mothership


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