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> you know exactly what it is

But you don't though, do you? "Vegan cheese" isn't cheese. Instead, it's a bunch of ingredients to make it feel and taste like cheese, but it's not cheese. Often it doesn't feel or taste like it, it barely comes close, and they can be worse for your health than cheese itself might be.

For milk alternatives, it's even worse. It's just a money printing machine. Much higher profit margins compared to milk for some lies and a vastly inferior taste and less nutrition.

Don't get me wrong, I've reduced my dairy intake considerably, so I'm all for dairy alternatives, but these companies are on the border of lying, and governments need to take action against them.


The use of "cheese" or "milk" is more about how you'd likely use the products than what they are made out of (with the exception of actual cheese and milk). I'd rather see "vegan cheese" on a product as that tells me what I want to know - it's vegan and it's intended as a cheese replacement (not that I'd pick vegan cheese over regular cheese, anyhow). Similarly with milk replacements - having "milk" on the label is a great indicator that it'll work in tea/coffee/cereal etc.

Edit: What I find disingenuous with UK food labels is the proliferation of "plant-based" on products that are typically plant-based anyway e.g. tortilla chips


For "makes your coffee white" there is already the established product name "coffee whitener". What's wrong with using that one instead of mislabeling it as a dairy product?


Because it's not simply a coffee Whitener, it can be used for other things, it's also not labeled as a dairy product, it's labeled as a plant based milk alternative, which is pretty clear.


Well then, can I use it to make cheese? How is the fat content, can I skim it for cream, maybe make some butter? Can I make Sourmilk? Yoghurt? Can I at least foam it up for Cappucino?

For most of those things that aren't milk, the answer is "no". So they aren't milk alternatives, are they?


The answer to some of those questions would also be "no" for particular types of milk (e.g. skimmed milk).

Honestly, if someone told me that they got confused between dairy milk and plant-based milk, I'd laugh at them. It's not likely to be a recurrent problem either, as surely you'd realise when you came to use it.


Here’s almond milk referenced in a recipe in 1410:

“For to make blomanger. Nym rys & lese hem & washe hem clene, & do þereto god almande mylke & seþ hem tyl þey al tobrest; & þan lat hem kele.”

People have used the word milk to refer to some plant products for too long for this to confuse people now.


At least oat and almond milk are an old cultural thing in my country. Definitely not something made up by the "evil green" industry.


See also, coconut milk.


Wow.

What exactly is the problem here? If I want to know what is in it or how it is made, I can read the label.

Seeing that it is a 'plant based cheese' I can know exactly what it is, in terms of how I would use it, sure I might not know what it is made of, but isn't that true for most things people buy unless they do research / read the label?

Calling it any other name, just makes it confusing, it's clear you don't like these products, which is fine, so long as they are labeled correctly such as 'almond milk' or 'plant based cheese' you can avoid them and get on with your life.

For others that want this product, this labeling is helpful, what is the issue, apart from being being anti-plant based products having a hissy fit?7

There is no lying going on with the products, it's helping customers decide. If I turn vegan and I want to use something to replace cheese, what would I be looking for? Plant based cheese, is easy and simple, why are we making this an issue? Products have been named this way for a significant time.


Are you seriously going to claim that you know exactly what's in every cheese?


This is inherently not the same, though. Sure, companies come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, but a company's first and foremost interest is profit for the shareholder. For a person in a relationship, it's about finding a partner that makes them happy. In addition, you are expendable to a company, whereas people build a relationship and become more and more invested over time. Way more than a company becomes invested in an employee.


No, a company's first and foremost interest is not profit for the shareholder.

Corporations don't have interests. They're abstractions -- ways of organizing people to be productive members of society. Individuals within those corporations have interests.

If you look at a company as if it were a sentient human, you'll get to the wrong conclusions. There is no moral imperative for a company to survive. There's a moral imperative to make sure everyone has gainful, productive employment, healthy levels of stress, etc.

If you're at Google, and you can work on:

(1) an advertising user-profiling technology with no social benefit but contribution to Google's bottom line

(2) a civics-focused open-source project with no benefit to shareholder value, but significant value to society

Which would you pick?

If you're at Enron pre-scandal, and can either:

(1) successfully cover up evidence to prevent the scandal; or

(2) blow the whistle

Which do you pick? That's where the moral imperative sits. These things are much more complex with a partner. There's a moral imperative not to betray your partner, as well as one to not support immoral actions, and some balance. With corporations, there is no such moral imperative. If an unethically-organized corporation dies, and resources move into ethically-organized ones, the world is better off.


> The tiny FM transmitter is surprisingly powerful. Her neighbours (of similar vintage) are very happy too, so their requests have also started coming in :)

Sounds like you're about to start a Radio station for the nation.


Or it'll be enough only for local area. We don't need everything to be nation-scale, local-community activities need to be promoted more.


Based on how you're asking I assuming that "Radio station for the nation" is a quote from a movie or something, but searching for it reveals surprisingly little (and is surprisingly random - Google / Bing clearly has _no_ idea what I'm looking for :) )

Is this a quote / reference to something? If so, could you let us all in on what it's referring to?


All I could think of was the song Radio, Radio. See the line about cleaning up the nation.

https://genius.com/Elvis-costello-radio-radio-lyrics


Sorry, no dice. It isn't, at least not intentionally.


No worries! Thanks for replying, though - thinking "there _must_ be a quote, I just don't know it / can't find it" woulda bugged me :)


If not for the brand difference, it should be done to avoid Amazon's lawyer from coming after you.


> 10k M2M tokens for $250/month sounds like a really bad deal if I can just spin up https://github.com/ory/hydra that can easily handle 10k requests per second.

Spinning one up is easy, sure. Making sure it's production ready, is not so much.


Maybe it's because I'm naive when it comes to Nix, but so far everything Nix related I've seen requires some file configuration that no everyone is able to keep up with. Compare that to having a GUI frontend and a simple `flatpak install ..` command.

Flatpak is not just easier for packagers, it's miles ahead when it comes to simplicity for end users.


Ah, this is fair. Where I view "flatpack install ..." as a negative, I do realize that most users likely view that as a positive.


The benefit of Nix is that you declaratively configure everything in a single file. And there's no reason you couldn't wrap a GUI around that. In fact I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already.


> Try to access thepiratebay.org or other pirate sites, or other sites that the UK gov deems inappropriate (CP obviously), etc.

I don't know about the "other sites", but tpb isn't part of any "Great Firewall". It's just ISPs have been required to update their DNS servers to _not_ resolve the DNS record. Even then, there are still quite a few ISPs that have not implemented it. It's why changing your DNS servers to something like Google or Cloudflare means you can easily access tpb.

So blocked websites in the UK are nowhere near on the same level as the Great Firewall.

My guess is those other sites are a bit more sophisticated, or if not, ISPs are willing to comply easier.


How he block is implemented is not of any concern to the public at large. Whether it's a simple DNS block or stateful packet inspection, the vast majority of people won't be able to access.

Once any blocking requirement is in place, it's only a matter of moving the slider to more technical means of enforcement to plug the holes in the system.

So you're right, the UK is nowhere near China in terms of filtering, neither does it need to be to still become a digital island.


That's not true, at least for VirginMedia. I use Cloudflare DNS servers and I can't access ThePirateBay without a proxy or a VPN, it's more than just a blockage at the DNS level.


When I was on virgin, I noticed that ip addresses used by some TPB or similar websites weren't routed to the internet, which is obviously quite bad. I'm not sure if it's still what they do. Better ISPs only do DNS blocking though. Some don't block anything actually.


oof, this is serious, thanks for letting me know


In that case it's your ISP (Virgin Media). My niche ISP gives me unfiltered internet. Also, I run my own recursive resolver.


Try an SSL DOH resolver, which can't be subject to simple transparent intercepts (at least not without you knowing about it).


I donno about the UKs system but with South Korea they just check the host in the request header and block by that.


How can they do that, the HTTP headers are encrypted by TLS?


Until encrypted SNI/encrypted client hello is a thing, the hostname is still sent in the clear.

Also, it can still be DNS blocked - just because you use Cloudflare's DNS doesn't mean they can't rewrite the responses as they still transit unencrypted. You'd have to use DNS-over-HTTPS or DNS-over-TLS to work around that.


If it's TLS1.2, certificates containing CNs and/or SANs are sent in the clear too.


Luckily, ESNI is being supported by an increasing number of implementations.


I believe China's answer to ESNI is just to block all traffic that attempts to handshake with ESNI, so it still won't necessarily get you anywhere.


Once everything is using ESNI this isn't a problem anymore. It's the lack of implementation that is currently the problem.


Maybe it's actually SNI.


not op, no idea how they do it but they COULD look at the SNI in the client hello


They can block the IPs or watch for SNI requests.

It's far from as complex as the Great Firewall of China.


I don't think the main complaint about the Great Firewall of China is its complexity.


For now...


This is a regular VM. Specially it's qemu-kvm. The difference being that this is running qemu-kvm inside a container (remember, containers are mostly just processes). The advantage this gives you is that your run command is much simpler than the alternative.


If I'm reading this[0] correct, according to GitHub it includes that too.

[0] https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic...


The weather data that the circumvention provides access to is not copy righted though right? From other comments I gather it comes from public data and is not the companies.

If so it would not meet the criteria in the first sentence of your link:

> The Copyright Act also prohibits the circumvention of technological measures that effectively control access to works protected by copyright.

That is an interesting corner case, not sure if it is a bug or a feature.


According to Wikipedia[0], using "ise" is still the British spelling, as well as Australian spelling. However, the Oxford spelling of these words are using "ize".

After a customary search, I can't seem to find any sources that suggest using "ise" might be French, and made popular by British newspapers, besides the below Wikipedia article claiming newspapers using the "ise" spelling, instead of "ize". I'd love to see some sources on this if you have any.

I grew up in Britain, and have been spelling using the "ise" version, but since I've started working for a US company, I've started using "ize" everywhere since it's just easier. In addition, it's still accurate British, when using the Oxford spelling. Although, it did take me a while to get accustomed to changing my writing.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling


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