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It kinda gets buried under the utter incompetence of these clowns but why are we even bombing Yemen? How is it acceptable to brazenly destroying other countries’ civil infrastructure? It’s a US president’s pastime activity since Obama


Obama started doing it as a concession to the Saudis for our policies in the ME. More recently Yemen has pirated ships as an immediate response to our support and funding of mass murder of civilians in Palestine. So the Yemenis are not blameless and there is some sort of valid reasoning for the attacks, but to be clear we are the instigator here.


Agreed, mine was more of a rhetorical question. The concession was that we allowed the Saudis to bomb them and further excarcerbate the civil war in Yemen. Now because they are blockading shipments in protest of the current onslaught in Gaza we are pummeling them for it. We sure do have a taste for war crimes in the region.


The other issue is that these bombing will accomplish nothing of value. These rebels have been bombed to the stone age by Saudi already. The cost of the sorties is vastly larger than anything the rebels are sending. Yes, some 'show the colors' is needed to assuage allies and merchants. It ends up being very expensive 'grass cutting'.

But real change there is going to require boots on the ground. And none of the players in the region want that. So, we just spend a $80,000 on a missile for a guy to shoot that doesn't make that in a year at a guy that doesn't make that in a lifetime.


> real change there is going to require boots on the ground

Or bombing their sponsors. I’m not an advocate of war with Iran. But it makes more sense than blowing up desert mountains.


To stop the houthis from sinking/pirating container ships.


TIL that ballistic missiles are civil infrastructure


> why are we even bombing Yemen?

Houthis are bombing unarmed civilian ships in the Red Sea. This makes zero sense for Yemen. But it does, politically, for the Houthis. Put another way, the extremists in one government are bombing another country because of what the extremists in that country are up to.


I wish the government would stop calling them rebels and call them what they are - the defacto government of Yemen.


> what they are - the defacto government of Yemen

The Houthis are a belligerent in a civil war with multiple sides [1], none of which could stand without external backing. They're not a ragtag group of rebels. But they're also not the government of Yemen.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_civil_war_(2014%E2%80%9...


But then it would sound as if they were bombing a sovereign nation instead of doing pacekeeping


Not since Bush and Iraq's non-existent WMDs? Or Vietnam or countless other conflicts got involved in under the Monroe doctrine?


But you are just proving WeylandYutani’s point. You can make good money outside the US (ex. Switzerland, Singapore, etc) but because your preconceived notion you don’t even look at the evidence. I won’t be arguing on the definition of ‘perfect’ which is highly subjective.


It’s much more simple and depraved. They are taking tips from doxxing websites like this: https://canarymission.org/individual/Rumeysa_Ozturk


Screenshots of her crime (the essay) are on display at that website. The real crime here is arresting someone for an essay in a school newspaper.


Yes, same Jeff who was an ex-IDF prison guard


Why do we throw pearls before these swine lemon_zest?


There was a post about George Foreman in the front page the other day so why not this one?


They can impeach. That’s their only political tool. And have it on the record who votes against it. But they are useless


> They can impeach.

No, they can't.

> And have it on the record who votes against it.

They cannot force a vote to actually occur on a proposed impeachment. They can file it and let it die, that's as close as they can come.


The Democrats can neither pass bills of impeachment (minority in the House, which introduces such bills), nor convict (a supermajority is required within the Senate, the Democrats don't even hold a majority).

Democrats can introduce bills of impeachment, but those would simply die without consideration given GOP control of the House. So far as I'm aware, none have done so since 20 Jan 2025.


How does this protect democracy?


Because making the U.S. solvent is critical to preserving democracy. A country drowning in debt with an inefficient government is weak. If the U.S. collapses financially, who do you think fills the void? China? Russia? Do you trust them to uphold free speech and individual rights?

Fixing the system isn’t just about economics… It’s about ensuring that democracy doesn’t get replaced by something far worse.


> Because making the U.S. solvent

1. None of Elon's actions have anything to do with making the US solvent. Congress sets the US budget, not the president. And they're raising the debt ceiling to pay for tax breaks (primarily benefitting the wealthy) not lowering it. That's where any savings (which are minimal) will go.

The real savings -- if Congress does it -- will be to gut Medicaid. That has nothing to do with DOGE for one, and secondly, it will have a huge negative impact on not only lower income Americans but many others (because of the knock on impact of reducing funding to nursing homes etc.)

2. The US is the larger debtor nation, but because it issues debt denominated in its own currency, it essentially holds a get out of jail card.


I don’t think you have a solid understanding on how government works and are conflating many things here. Fiscal balance is not going to cause the USG to gonna blink out of existence (unlike a company). While there is certainly the need to increase efficiency and solidify government operations, you don’t fix democracy by unilaterally gutting the federal government and regulations and concentrating power on a handful of rich individuals. That’s going in the opposite direction of a democratic system. Try more reading a history book and less of Elon’s feed.


You poor thing. It seems like you actually believe what you're saying. You'll have to build more an more of these mental constructs in the near future to maintain your beliefs, but they will eventually be forced to snap under all of that dissonance.


So you're saying the $4T tax break they plan to implement harms democracy?

Yeah, you have a point there.


Wait, so they waited until yesterday to remove incriminating evidence? Just when Trump’s staff also came in to purge data? What a coincidence!


How is this relevant to OP’s point?


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What is the argument you are trying to make?


It's a "gotcha" question that suggests the poster of it is spending a bit too much time obsessing about it in the circles they run in.


Most likely some sort of "liberals get things wrong too, so you shouldn't criticize Trump for lying so much".


A vicious hoax campaign is not merely "getting things wrong" tho.


I generally agree given where we are right now but i would still argue that with the right Dem candidate and momentum there can be a chance to codify some bold leftist policies that truly improve people’s material conditions like more labor protections, cheaper healthcare/child care etc. These are popular policies across party lines. No one focused on them during this election cycle. In a way people voted for Trump because he kept repeating that Dems made you miserable and i will punish them. And Dems were offering to “save democracy” while leaning further right (see immigration bill). Unfortunately Trump is not helping solve any of those issues. And we are back to square one.


Of course the democrats can win again and they will but that DJT won at all let alone a second time speaks volumes about the American people and their fall. Really sad.


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