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Talking heads serve the interests of their wealthy benefactors who have gone all out to own/control all of news media. Benefactors whose wealth is almost entirely tied up in securities.

In the past, the game was as played with the additional benefit of foreign bondholders and currency reserves slowing the overall velocity of money. The rest of the world has heen quietly blunting the inflationary effects of printing USD.

Most Americans - this administration included - don't know how good they have had it, and are throwing it all away due to avarice.


That's one way to invite asymmetric warfare[1] on the mainland - the border with Canada is something that mostly exists on maps.

1. As recently wargamed by the Canadian military.


I'm remembering an old painting, and briefly wondered if we'd see a repeat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_President%27s_House_b...

Then I remembered the building works, and thought "If it happened, how would anyone even notice?"


> It is difficult to say.

It isn't: you can still download the 2007-vintage FreeBSD desktop and run it in a VM today if you'd like. The CD image-files are quick downloads with modern broadband speeds. Prepare to be disappointed though.


> Its baffling that you think the collapse of the USD would have no negative ramifications on the rest of the world.

Empires rise and fall, pax Americana was not the world's first hegemony. The end of the British Empire is within living memory - while they sowed seeds of instability in a handful of former colonies that still flare up today, the rest of the world is fine. Britain, on the other hand, has had to enter a "managed decline", and is a much smaller player in world politics than it was a century ago.


If you think the US is going to decline slowly, fade into history and not try to go out with a bang, I guess that is certainly one world view!

What do you think the US is going to do for that bang? How could a bang ever bring the wealth and peace that its prior friendship with allies brought?

The US doesn't have the cards to play, because the current US Government doesn't even understand where the wealth has come from. That US Government has risen to power by tricking the public into thinking that the very things that make the US wealthy and powerful are actually a scam making them poorer.

The current US Government has already broken the trust that makes the US strong. The repercussions will take years to become fully visible, and without immediate course correction those future repercussions will get far far worse.


> What do you think the US is going to do for that bang?

Literally a bang.

Or many bangs. The largest military in human history going YOLO won’t be a pretty sight. (The only way it sucks more in America than it does abroad is if we go civil war. But even then, it’s almost certain to go global.)


> How could a bang ever bring the wealth and peace that its prior friendship with allies brought?

It won't.


Is that “bang” Mutually Assured Destruction?

The world wasn't globalized then. It's quite literally, an entire new world today. The collapse of the US will touch every corner of the world.

> One I agree with in principal, but not reflected in sales figures.

In the absence of perfect competition and perfect information, one cannot infer from the absence of sales that there is no demand for item X.


You could measure this by looking at the Pensions fund performance vs US treasuries over the next decade or so.

SCOTUS has deemed Kavanaugh stops to be legal, i.e. you can be stopped on the basis of your apparent ethnicity alone

Kavanaugh's concurrence (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a169_5h25.pdf) literally says the opposite:

> To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion; under this Court’s case law regarding immigration stops, however, it can be a “relevant factor” when considered along with other salient factors. Id., at 887.


Sure, but the intent and effect is to give cops more leeway in using perceived ethnicity as a factor. In the full passage, he explicitly says that given the prevalence in LA of undocumented immigrants from Latin America working in particular jobs, local police are permitted to detain such workers who appear Latine (i.e. to racially profile them).

A fuller quote:

> To stop an individual for brief questioning about immigration status, the Government must have reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the United States ... Reasonable suspicion is a lesser requirement than probable cause and "considerably short" of the preponderance of the evidence standard ... Whether an officer has reasonable suspicion depends on the totality of the circumstances ... Here, those circumstances include: that there is an extremely high number and percentage of illegal immigrants in the Los Angeles area; that those individuals tend to gather in certain locations to seek daily work; that those individuals often work in certain kinds of jobs, such as day labor, landscaping, agriculture, and construction, that do not require paperwork and are therefore especially attractive to illegal immigrants; and that many of those illegally in the Los Angeles area come from Mexico or Central America and do not speak much English. To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion; under this Court's case law regarding immigration stops, however, it can be a "relevant factor" when considered along with other salient factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop?wprov=sfti1#Sup...


Yeah, you would need more than just ethnicity. You can read the Justice's examples directly in the case. Being or looking Mexican on a parking lot may be enough to justify a Kavanaugh stop, but just being Mexican or looking Mexican on it's own is not enough.

Well since I can do all of those things without being stopped due to my race, it appears that being Mexican would be the sole determining reason

"Parking while looking Mexican."

"Looking Mexican in LA."

Mm... I can smell them Freedom Fries.


There's also being Native American in America: https://narf.org/narf-statement-ice/

You can be stopped on reasonable suspicion, which Kavanaugh expanded (and he seems to have immediately realized his name is permanently besmirched).

But they definitely cannot arrest people based on reasonable suspicion. Anyone speaking on behalf of DHS should know the difference.


Kavanaugh's concurrence does not "expand" reasonable suspicion. It explains that a combination of factors including "apparent race or ethnicity" may cause reasonable suspicion. Which, in fact, as a basic matter of probabilistic reasoning, given the other information in https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a169_5h25.pdf, it might.

And an important part of the decision is that (emphasis his):

> Plaintiffs’ standing theory is especially deficient in this case because immigration officers also use their experience to stop suspected illegal immigrants based on a variety of factors. So even if the Government had a policy of making stops based on the factors prohibited by the District Court, immigration officers might not rely only on those factors if and when they stop plaintiffs in the future.

and to affirm existing understanding of reasonable suspicion:

> Reasonable suspicion is a lesser requirement than probable cause and “considerably short” of the preponderance of the evidence standard. Arvizu, 534 U. S., at 274. Whether an officer has reasonable suspicion depends on the totality of the circumstances. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U. S., at 885, n. 10; Arvizu, 534 U. S., at 273. Here, those circumstances include: that there is an extremely high number and percentage of illegal immigrants in the Los Angeles area; that those individuals tend to gather in certain locations to seek daily work; that those individuals often work in certain kinds of jobs, such as day labor, landscaping, agriculture, and construction, that do not require paperwork and are therefore especially attractive to illegal immigrants; and that many of those illegally in the Los Angeles area come from Mexico or Central America and do not speak much English. Cf. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U. S., at 884–885 (listing “[a]ny number of factors” that contribute to reasonable suspicion of illegal presence).

(In other words, he clearly lays out the reasons why such a "combination of factors" may create reasonable suspicion, per precedent.)

As for Kavanaugh "realizing" any such thing, I can't fathom why you think so. This is the same guy who has been very visibly protested by activists of a similar stripe from the beginning.


Sure: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a443_new_kkg1....

Footnote on Page 7, written by Kavanaugh mere weeks after the Perdomo decision, says the opposite: "the officers must not make interior immigration stops or arrests based on race or ethnicity... “[T]he Constitution prohibits selective enforcement of the law based on considerations such as race”"

So is race a consideration or is it not? He says here that it's well-established that the Constitution prevents it.

Or did he just throw in that sentence as a complete non-sequitur, unrelated to the immediately preceding sentences?


There is no contradiction between your quote and my quotes.

They cannot make the stop "based on" that sole factor.

It may become part of "the totality of the circumstances" that "contribute to" reasonable suspicion.

See also https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=46685060.


Kavanaugh literally says that it's well-established that race cannot be a consideration in the application of law.

You (and Kavanaugh a few weeks prior) are saying that it can be.

That's a contradiction.


> [T]he Constitution prohibits selective enforcement of the law based on considerations such as race

> it's well-established that race cannot be a consideration in the application of law.

You seem to think these statements are equivalent. They are not.

"Kavanaugh a few weeks prior" is perfectly consistent, as explained in the other post I linked.


Please articulate a scenario that bisects them, then.

And no, your "solely due to" vs "contributing factor to" does not satisfy this. The quoted text (from Whren v United States) is extremely clear: race cannot be a consideration.


No, the quoted text does not mean what you claim it does. The English words "based on" do not work that way.

> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Therefore I am done here, as well.


I followed your thread and can’t think of a situation where one case was satisfied and not the other.

Can you give us an example where the two statements are meaningfully different?


Why people act surprised that an institution that was literally made to uphold the interests of the elite and is extremely undemocratic continues to act undemocratic?

You have to stop thinking these institutions are worth protecting when they have been the impediment to any progress this country has made.


They may be a German-speaker betrayed by muscle-memory while typing in english.

But they didn't capitalize any of the other nouns.

> if you want to understand what’s going on

Funny how the in-depth analysis of motivations is strictly in one direction, ratcheting the Overton window forever rightward.

On one hand we had mountains of articles about "economic anxiety" & "The MAGA next door" in 2016. On the flip side is "Fuck your feelings" and never a "humanizing, fish out of water" longform article about the life of a Democratic Socialist in a small Texas town after Biden 2020.


I disagree with your perceptions about media bias.

I’m not telling you it’s a moral obligation to understand. It’s in your interest.


> It’s in your interest

Explain. Hopefully with details on how that tactic was utilized by the most politically effective group in the US in the past 50 years - the Heritage Foundation.


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