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Important question:

Did they die from COVID-19 or did they with COVID-19?

Italy just revised their numbers and it’s quite a significant difference.


It's better to look at excess deaths since testing is so haphazard in much of the world. Current estimates are between 10-15m excess deaths world wide.


Excess deaths are not an anomaly to begin with. Year 2000 saw excess deaths, so did 2014.

Also, when you have deliberatly forced an additional 150 million people into extreme poverty to keep them healthy ( as it were ), you are bound to see a spike in deaths.

Frankly I am surprised the death toll of the brutal restrictions toward marginalized populations is not higher.

I suspect we will soon reap the dubious benefits of undoing 35 years of 3rd world progress in 22 months.

6 months ago I still cared. Now I am just numb.

Reduced from human being with rights, to a piece of diseased flesh that must be muffled, silenced, tested, regularily injected with one experimental drug after the other and preferably locked up for eternity.

To add to it, I must feel a sende of pride in partaking in this. Because it is the holy science.

My very existence is inconvenient to the experts.


Must be hard keeping your head up when you're swimming in such deep drama. You don't appear to understand what excess deaths mean; it means deaths over what previous trends would predict.

Here are some links to challenge your statements:

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-066768

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...

I would post more, but I'm sure that you're capable of using Google.

150m pushed into extreme poverty? If you mean the US, your facts are wrong. And then you pivot to the "death toll of brutal restrictions"? What is this nonsense?

You've been muffled - Oh wow, wearing a mask is just torture.

You've been silenced - Hmm, not sure what this nonsense is about.

Tested - Yup. As part of an ongoing pandemic, yup. If you can't live in civil society and agree to give up some small freedoms, buy land in Alaska and live in a cabin.

"regularily injected" - A) the drug wasn't experimental, and B) it was primarily two doses. That's not regularly...

"preferably locked up for eternity" - wow, that's exactly what my daughter said when I grounded her last week.

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds to people? How absolutely childish and selfish? This is why a huge portion of the US is just fed up with anti-vaxxers.


There you have it... if one dares to post anything that conflicts with the official narrative, you are a paid shill. Even if that post is literal science like the comment above which is a collection of studies on Ivermectin.


No, I'm (me, singular) close to assuming that people who link to an anonymous, mangled cherry-picking of incongruous study endpoints is a paid shill.


Instead of straight coercion like limiting travel with a passport, I would argue the following is more effective:

- Full liability for vaccine manufacturers

- No censorship of dissenting views

- Open discussion with all views represented instead of suppressed

- Honesty on unvaccinated vs vaccinated case, death numbers

- Following the science instead of what’s convenient for politicians at the moment


Let’s think outside the box a bit here. If we see a few more of these leaks, it’s reasonable to assume that they’re leaked on purpose.

Why? So that vaccination status won’t be private health data anymore, it will slowly work it’s way towards being public information.

With the data public, non-compliers can be harassed, threatened or worse without governments having to lift a finger to oppress them.


But that’s the only argument they have


Yeah, dang morons not getting the not-yet-available booster shot!

I mean, those dang morons not getting the available vaccine which does nothing for transmission of the current viral variant! Eesh, well that doesn’t hold water either...

Ugh this is too complicated, let’s just blame the unvaccinated anyways mmkay?


You were doing so well until the last sentence.

Vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the delta variant. If you disagree, please post your proof. Until then, please stop spreading misinformation.


Thank you EU - Bitcoin transactions weren’t traceable at ALL before.


If you haven’t yet, now would be a good time to get completely out of USDT on any exchanges or Celsius/BlockFi/etc


Thank you censorship, or I would have never known about this subreddit.


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