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Here's a photo of the Colonel-

http://www.gazettenet.com/Gitmo-case-off-rails-13508136

The prisoner, Al-Nashiri, was arrested in 2002 and held in CIA black sites for years. In 2004, he was sentenced to death (in absentia) in Yemen for the USS Cole bombing.

Instead, the CIA interrogated him and tortured him for years. Now he's charged in a case where if he wins he remains in prison indefinitely.

If this guy really was a terrorist why didn't the CIA send him back to Yemen to be put to death legally?

According to this article, a CIA official disputed his guilt saying: "He was an idiot. He couldn't read or comprehend a comic book."

I wonder what the truth is and how they could be ambiguous on his guilt. I think the CIA is generally good but I often wonder how it'd work if Elon Musk type principles drove government agencies. All organizations seem poisoned by processes and plagued by mental models designed by lawyers with relativistic principles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-h...


>sentenced to death (in absentia) in Yemen

one can only wonder how much "justice" in a justice system which does such things in absentia.

>If this guy really was a terrorist why didn't the CIA send him back to Yemen to be put to death legally?

while can't speak for CIA obviously, i think there are many reasons like for example how one can be sure whether current government-of-the-day in Yemen would kill the guy or let him go as a national hero?

> All organizations seem poisoned by processes and plagued by mental models designed by lawyers with relativistic principles.

this is why there are courts, the 3rd branch, whose decisions are supposed to have the power to correct the organizations back onto the right course. Of course in the situations when there is no court power present, like in Gitmo for example, the organization there - government - can do whatever it wants, be it a right thing or a wrong one, without any limitations/checks.

The key money quote from your link :

“While the government has an interest in ensuring that the proceedings at Guantanamo are fair, that interest is not compelling enough” to stop the proceedings, Wiltsie [a Justice Department attorney] said in Lamberth’s courtroom Thursday.


> Instead, the CIA interrogated him and tortured him for years.

> I think the CIA is generally good [...]

You're either having strange moral values or suffering from cognitive dissonance ;-)

(I don't mean to attack you, it just jumped at me while reading your comment)


"You're either having strange moral values or suffering from cognitive dissonance"

And, I would add, missing some reading in the modern history of South-America.


I forgot the disclaimer; I have worked with CIA employees.


>All organizations seem poisoned by processes and.. Others in the comments here have pitched an important point. Because some parts of the legal system have been hijacked and these abuses are happening does not imply that the system is bad. It means that people of ill intent have grabbed the reigns.

Could you paint a pen picture of what Elon Musk principles would mean so we can discuss?


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