The day AOSP sources aren't relased, Google will just lose control over Android and it will be managed by a Chinese consortium instead.

8 of the 10 top smartphone manufacturers are Chinese, there's no going back from that.

For consumers maybe, for countries on the other hand there's a massive push for digital independence right now and this is part of it.

The legality of this update is also dubious in the EU as they are remotely crippling the device bought without any prior information, warning or way to go back.

Goodbye Samsung anyways, I've been with them since 2013 but it's time to go now.

It’s unlikely to be a problem legally unless it was an advertised feature.

I'm thinking about the PS3 Linux compatibility for example which definitely wasn't advertised and was mostly there for tax purposes.

Sony definitely advertised the capability, for example: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ps3-is-linux-supercomputer-cla... (first link I could find in a hurry, the lawsuit likely has better examples)

Google's announcement is just trolling, there's an order of magnitude more scams on the Play store and they don't call for its closure.

Right now when I search for "ChatGPT", the top app is a counterfeit app with a fake logo, is it really this store which is supposed to help us fight scams?

> Right now when I search for "ChatGPT", the top app is a counterfeit app with a fake logo, is it really this store which is supposed to help us fight scams?

Just did Play search for "ChatGPT" and the top-2 results were for OpenAI's app (one result was sponsored by OpenAI one result was from Google's search). So anecdotally your results may vary.

See what I'm seeing on my device : https://ibb.co/DJKGM8d

So maybe before talking about anything about direct installs, they could fix the big scams on the Play Store.

I don't think it's necessarily true, compare the BSD utils to the GNU utils and the style difference is very visible.

On the other hand, I don't think the comparison between jails and docker is fair. What made Docker popular is the reusability of the containers, certainty not the sandboxing which in the early days was very leaky.

Indeed, that Docker is functionally a cross-distro rolling release package manager, configuration standard, and service supervisor[1] is the appeal to me. Any isolation it achieves is necessary for that to all work reliably, but is not why I use it.

Inability to find a service I want to run on Github and 95+% of the time to be able to configure it and have it running and fully managed with usually just a one-liner shell script like 10 minutes later just by finding an existing docker image is the thing I’d lose with jails. That’s all of the value of docker to me personally. Jails could be a building block toward that, but last I checked there’s no deep and up-to-date library of “packages” I can reach for, using jails, which makes it pretty much useless to me.

1: I have like eight or nine services running on my home Debian system, they all auto-restart and come back up on reboot, and I’ve not had to touch Systemd once on that machine.

I do not know which is the difference, but you really feel a difference.

It might be of homogeneity, i.e. the FreeBSD tools behave in a consistent way, while there are significant differences between the Linux tools, depending on which were the opinions of their particular authors about how the traditional UNIX tools should be changed.

For instance, at some point in time, long ago, in Linux the traditional "ifconfig" and a few related commands have been replaced by "ip", for managing networking.

The Linux "ifconfig" needed an upgrade, as it could do only a small fraction of what the FreeBSD "ifconfig" could do. Nevertheless, until today, decades later, I have been unable to stop hating the Linux "ip".

I cannot say why, because in other cases when some command-line or GUI utility that I had used for many years was replaced by an alternative I instantly recognized that the new UI was better and I never wanted to use the old UI again.

So while both FreeBSD and Linux have started with the same traditional UNIX utilities, they have evolved divergently and now they frequently feel quite differently, in the sense that the various options in commands or in configuration files may match your expectations only when taking into account the identity of the OS. Overall FreeBSD has been more conservative, but there are also cases when it has made bigger changes, but such changes seem more carefully planned and less haphazard than in the Linux world.

They're more consistent with each other, like how they all respond to SIGINFO when you Ctrl+T.

what do you mean by reusability?

For example, you can build a Python image, and reuse it on every Python apps you have.

And for the whole world, too. I don't need to build my own local stripped down version of Alpine Linux with python, somebody's already dike that for me.

I don't like that aspect of OCI containers. You shouldn't be running or building on top of random images made by unknowns.

Convenience beats security every time.

You probably picked the worst example as Apple gave Facebook a pass a few times as Facebook is too big to fail.

As opposed to the Play Store where you search for "ChatGPT" and end up on a scam app which read all your messages and copy all your photos?

And that example isn't random, I just tried and the first result for me is a counterfeit app with the logo of chatgpt copied .

It's almost impossible to create a new Facebook account nowadays and I wonder if that's one of the cause of the decline of Facebook

I wonder if they ever had enough of the California Attorney General on them (after people posted guides on how to seek resolution through that channel)

btw saw recommendations to use a VPN to be able to use the complaint form… overall, wonder how much Meta cost taxpayers there (maybe they make up for it?)

It has been happening in other platforms too. I had a tough time creating a new LinkedIn account after deleting mine around 10 years ago. At one point one day in the new account I got banned, then I submitted my ID and got in only to be banned again within the same timespan. All the same accusations that the profile information I submitted was not “correct”, translation: I was not me according to someone else’s idea of what being me is, even though I was able to show them a proper ID.

I only got it working stable after finding an obscure email on Reddit and re-sending my ID to a completely different confirmation system.

I wasn't going to send my driver's license to some overseas contractor... I eventually hunted down a form for submitting a notarized statement proving who I was. It's more than a bit ridiculous.

How do they expect future growth then?

In general, its really stunning that Meta stock price grew that much since 2012 - when they IPO'd in 2012, I thought i will be a "cheap stock" around 50 - 70 USD.

Facebook appears to want go turn your grandparents into AIs and sell them back yo you when they die.

Oh then I guess it is good that they dead already. And they never had an account. So I am safe.

Yes, but society rwquires everyone to be safe.

nice username... I was going to say, we warned about this with the google+ real name policy "nymwars" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymwars and the cloudflare AI bot blocking that blocks humans

Yes it's potentially good for reducing spam and terribly good for collecting personal information for advertisers. Both at the expense of making social networks inaccessible to real people.

The moral argument is that private companies aren't elected and Google/Apple aren't supposed to have the power they have, they aren't government bodies.

As far as I know, China forbids open bootloaders on its territory so it's not where you'll see any open ecosystem.

Not Google controlled for sure but also not open.