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Thank you for being honest and up front about your background. It is very meaningful that you do not try to hide it, and I feel it increases trust.


VoIP.ms is hard to port into and out of, I've repeatedly seen them drop part of the account number when transferring a number, then drag their feet for days thereafter on resubmitting the port.

Always ask for the Port Order Number (PON) so you can follow up with the other carrier to see what they received from VoIP.ms


I've only done it a few times in each direction, but I've never had an issue porting in or out of VOIP.ms, and it seemed easy enough to me.


That's frustrating, but why are you so concerned with porting out of VoIP-based carriers?


Google Voice is requiring ID verification now, and porting your phone number out is difficult as they charge an unlock fee and you get to deal with Bandwidth.com's port out shenanigans as they are the real underlying carrier for Google Voice.


> Google Voice is requiring ID verification now

Yep, this is a crappy change going forward :-(

However, Google Voice does not require ID verification for preexisting accounts, so this has no effect on existing users.


Which vendor did you choose to partner with to provide the mobile core (IMS and such)?

I've talked to a few tangentially and it seems like an interesting space.


What can be open sourced (GrapheneOS) already is, and the remainder is business logic that they have described for the MVNO that is likely carrier specific and tied to the oddball MVNO platform they are using.

Very hard to make the latter usable by anyone else IMO.


Mitigating SIP and TDM spoofing requires broad cooperation among every other Telecom provider. That doesn't exist today, you can't prevent people from spoofing your number.


There is a lot of money floating around major cities in the US. So many nonprofit entities are preserving some cultural niche thanks to their older patrons using their qualified minimum distribution to fund a long lasting endowment.

I feel like you see this less in other parts of the world where people don't have tens of thousands of dollars from their retirement savings that they have to take out each year, and they would rather give it tax free to their favorite nonprofit than take a haircut with taxes and then do nothing with the money


You might be surprised at how much other countries invest tax revenue into cultural projects


The difference is in other countries the government decides to invest their own citizens' tax revenue in whatever cultural projects they decide, versus in the US where individuals decide for themselves to do it.


Exactly, no on is truly overjoyed with Teams. As shovelware goes it is passable, but that is a low bar


Teams is shovelware. Force bundled, with questionably reliable messaging, okay video calling (if your organization policies don't break it), and a fairly useless Phone System component that misbehaves often.

Great for organizations that believe these forms of communication should be an afterthought that has rough edges and inconsistent reliability.

The recent changes to end webhook support, kill Linux desktop support and do yet another rewrite are inane. Don't expect features you use today in Teams to work in 2 years...


My org went all in on Teams over 6 years ago. Removed all PBX systems and desk phones. Pulled out Cisco phones from 20 offices. Ported all numbers to MS. By all accounts it was unremarkable to the end users, and when WFH mandates started it was seamless. Definitely a lot less IT support for configuring and troubleshooting a phone system too. There is far less downtime because Teams will ring through to your cell phone if the office internet is down or your laptop is off. That was not possible when the Cisco routers and CallManager in the office were running the DIDs and local extensions


> That was not possible when the Cisco routers and CallManager in the office were running the DIDs and local extensions

You could do it with other software hosted outside the office though. There are definitely options here.


yeah, thats why people just use Teams


It was, in fact, even with existing Microsoft products (Lync/Skype for Business). It was even possible if you had paid for those features for UCM from Cisco. Teams was simply the cheaper option (although they tried to keep charging my org Lync prices, and we had to threaten to uproot MS products and go to Cisco before they gave us the new pricing).


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> The main problem now is that it works fine

Except from:

* notifications for channels

* search

* using more than one org (needs app restart!) although screen sharing between 'classic' and 'web' editions works only if sender's and receiver's graphic cards share a hw-accelerated video format blessed by teams. Not, it's not easy to check what edition you are running and you can't change it without poking js variables by hand

* inconsistent read statuses between devices

* 'incoming call not shown at all' bug (but you get a missed call notification)

* can't join two video calls even in two separate windows

* random audio device switching on every morning (even if you don't close the app and computer for the night)


It's fine. Messages sometimes fail to appear unless you navigate away and back and sometimes they fail to appear at all until 30 minutes later but it's fine. This regularly slows down communication and costs company time, but it's fine. It's 2026, classrooms full of children can vibe code a chat app but a $3T company struggles with basic chat functionality. It's fine.


Whatever. I've been using it since day one and its still a broken turd. People are just used to shit software, restarting, rebooting, missing calls, missing messages. Sure you can make it work, but you can't deny its a real piece of shit.


still no way to check your email from teams though.


There's no way to check my tire pressure through teams, either. That's a good thing.

Let applications do a thing. The more we duplicate the crappier the original and the duplicate get.


Why would you want to do that? Outlook is perfectly fine, and on Windows it’s easy enough to toggle between the two windows.


because the whole range of the microsoft suite (word, excel, visio, rtc) is accessible from teams.


Maybe in 2020. Teams is the defacto IM app for enterprise now. It may not be to your liking, but most workplaces don't need apps to constantly be adding new features. They need videoconferencing, chat, meeting recording and AI transcription and note-taking. All synced with everyone's Outlook calendars and authenticated by the same SSO used org-wide. Teams has had all of those for years.


> Teams is the defacto IM app for enterprise now.

Slack has more mindshare


For the 1000+ headcount companies who sit outside the Silicon Valley webdev/software dev world, it doesn't. Silicon Valley looks at these as "products". Purchasing managers see these as "commodities" that need to be interoperable with the rest of their stack first.


Only because they use Office and Teams is bundled, everyone using it that's heard of Slack wants to be using Slack instead.


Honestly prefer teams over slack. Slack is good at text threads, while I'd still choose Teams for calls and meetings.


That's fair, in my last org we used Teams for meetings despite Slack for general chat etc.

Partly I'd say that's due to MS giving it subpar experience in O365 calendar/mail/outlook - you can't join a call directly, best you can really do is link to the channel as location.


They're ending webhooks? Bummer. By the looks of it, they're going to introduce a more complex alternative. No, two, because why not. Why make something work when you can also make two things that work half, right?


> Great for organizations that believe these forms of communication should be an afterthought

Yeah great for in person and email companies.


Direct webhooks have been removed but you can still use webhooks to send messages to Teams using PowerAutomate.

It's messier to set and maintain but it works as intended and also you can add more things to the workflow.

If you just want a URL to send json to, the new way is awful. But if you want to have more control, now you can.

Sometimes I like the PowerAutomate way, sometimes I hate it...


It works faster & better than Signal Desktop.


Genuinely surprised at this - I've never heard of signal desktop not being fast, or good. Works a1 for me.


If you start to have higher message volumes, Element Desktop handles syncing on first launch much more gracefully than Signal Desktop.


Signal Desktop is having its db corrupted every other time I launch it, and wants me to reconnect to the phone. The UX is OKish.


Your storage is dying, any Electron based app will lose its database in this scenario.


Nope. It's only Signal.


yeah, it's fine for me - probably as good as an electron app can get (def not good as a true native app but it's def better than having to use my phone...)


That's not a high bar.


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