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This at least reflects my feelings about visiting anytime soon.

I mean if I was just put on a flight back (for a tweet they found on my phone or such), that'd be kind of bearable. At least one visitor from the UK got locked up in a facility for a week.


> At least one visitor from the UK got locked up in a facility for a week.

If you're talking about Rebecca Burke, it was almost three weeks. All for something that was at worst a naive understanding of the visa she needed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/rebecca...


"Aussie MMA Coach’s Trip to America Goes Horribly Wrong as He Ends Up in Jail & Deported After Arriving in U.S." - https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-aussie-mma-co...


His story is a bit suspicious to me, I believe that he was detained but I can't help wondering if the rest is fiction based on watching US prison dramas. He would not have been sent to a federal prison for one thing, and his depictions of violence are what I would expect from long-term convicted felons, not people being held for having the wrong visa.


The rest doesn’t matter.

No one wants to be detained.

People who are spending thousands and tens of thousands of dollars to travel are fine if they need to spend a few hundreds additional ro fly back and cancel their vacation. Or sucks but it’s in the realm of the risks you take with international travel.

However, being detained, even for 1 day, and treated like a criminal is something none of these folks want.


Willing to concede that. But he has thousands of followers and is well known in the MMA comunity. Would he throw all that away for a good story? Also there is an update: "Update on U.S. federal prison detention of MMA coach Renato Subotic who recently trained Merab Dvalishvili"

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-update-u-s-federal-pris...

"UPDATE: I just spoke with coach Renato Subotic for a few minutes. He says he was detained at FDC Honolulu, which is a federal prison facility. He says he has no criminal record and it was a simple visa application issue. Interview later this week."


Interesting, I could be wrong then! The inclusion in his story of some very specific irrelevant details (like his cell/block number) while omitting anything that could be verified (like which border crossing and detention facility) was one of the things that raised my suspicion, but if he's sharing specifics now it raises my odds that he's telling the truth.


Yes, I have family in the USA, usually visiting them two or three times a year.

Not gonna happen this year, probably the next 3 years or more.


I really don't see the correlation with food shortages. Cabbage isn't nutritious at all. You'd need to eat 8 to 10 heads of cabbage to get 2000 Calories


As my sibling comment points out, it's full of micronutrients, which can be hard to come by when there isn't much growing. Having access to a decent source of electrolytes and vitamins really blunts the impact of having unreliable or inadequate food for a prolonged period.


It's not the cabbage per-se, it's what you cook it with. Like mushrooms, they have very few calories raw, but are cooked with some form of fat and that's what delivers the calories.

In Romania, pickled cabbage is a staple in the winter, cannot be that dissimilar to kimchi although I haven't tasted it. Particularly I like pickled cabbage juice straight from the barrel, some two months after they are prepared for fermentation. That's right around Christmas and it's the best thing to have after a hangover. There's also "drunkard's soup": cabbage juice soup, fatty and sour: https://www.bucataras.ro/uploads/modules/news/41634/656x440_...

Coming back to calories from cabbage, there's cabbage soup where cabbage is really, just for the flavor, like tea leaves in a tea you don't have to put a ton of them. That's one of the things I learned making my own soup, in the first one I put like a whole cabbage and turned out some yucky stew.

And there's sauteed cabbage, which I usually make in the fat left from frying sausages. And it's eaten with the very sausages, plus milk sour cream and bread. So a ton of calories, the cabbage is just ... I dunno, "the delivery agent" :)

But indeed it's not related to food shortages coze you don't have bread and cream and sausages when that happens. It's more like one of the several staples, coze although tasty, you can't eat potatoes all day, gotta vary.


Calories conventionally come from grains. If you measure cabbage's nutrition by its minerals and vitamins it packs quite a punch.


Apparently protein as well? I remember reading that cabbage is the highest yield protein per acre. It's just wrapped in a whole bunch of greens you have to munch through first.


Cabbage yields about 1000 lbs protein per acre, vs 3000 lbs protein per acre for soybeans.


I remember being taught that Bernoulli's principle causes lift. I was skeptical—how does the air on top know to reach the other end at the same time as the air at the bottom? I think I did ask, and I was just told this is how it works, and that's the correct answer for the exam. This was before the internet, and I couldn't just look up the correct explanation.

I parked it in my brain as something I didn't really understand and forgot about it. This was until not so many years ago when I found a satisfactory answer on YouTube. It was criminal to have been raised in an era without the internet.


Probably because the then PM decided to not follow the recommendations of the Russia report and order an investigation. Would have been good to know either way.


Probably because PM understood this was complete garbage?


Nope. The 350 million was supposed to be from money saved from not being in the EU.


How can you say it's not? Money is fungible.


If any UK politician openly admits that Brexit has had any adverse effect on anything at all, it is effectively game over for them.


I think you missed a word out. If any UK Conservative politician openly admits that Brexit has had adverse effects...

Although Labour are earning their title of "Red Tories" by continuing to support Brexit too. Keir Starmer is basically the same as Boris Johnson but with better hair products.


@FooBarWidget, I take it you're not uighur?


I'm not, but I'm in contact with a Uyhur as well as a non-Uyghur Xinjiang resident, and I've researched this topic for a long time. See also my other reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34789836

TLDR: heavy-handed anti-terrorism response, even if it deserves criticism, is not at all the same as "millions in concentration camps", "forced labor" or even "genocide". Many allegations you read in the media are grave distortions of reality for the purpose of geopolitical attacks and fostering consent for a war against China.


Modi apologists seem to make similar attacks on the media and the west. They claim that the media is biased and out to get him, any criticism of him is anti-national and so on.

You're claiming that the Uighur women that got forcibly sterilized are terrorists? Modi similarly uses the terrorism bogeyman to suppress criticism. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/10/how-terrorism-...)

And why isn't it easy for western journalists to report from Xinjiang, if it is as you describe it, a benign situation?


No that isn't what I said at all. I never said that Xinjiang is a "benign" situation, I said that Xinjiang's reality is very different from media reporting. Big difference. It's entirely possible for reality to be not benign, but also very far removed from the hellhole that's painted by media. Reality can be complex.

And no, I'm not claiming that Uyghur women who got sterilized are terrorists. I'm claiming that the entire story of there being widespread, systematic, forced sterilization for the purpose of genociding a people, is a false. The source for the forced sterilization claim is Adrien Zenz, who in his "research paper" said that IUD usage in Xinjing accounted for 80% of the country. But when you go to his cited source for that 80% figure, you see that the source actually said 8%. Then when some people made a fuss about that, he... wait for it... changed the 80% into 8% but did not change the paper's conclusion, and tried covering up the fact that he changed the paper at all! Meanwhile, no media is interested in reporting this.

"Modi apologists" have got absolutely nothing with me, but by citing them you're making the claim that everybody who claims that the media is biased is nuts. Then pray tell, what do you call media who looks the other way while a "researcher" fudges his numbers like that? What part of me pointing out shoddy research is "nationalism"?

I dare you to read Adrien Zenz's paper and tell me that it's reliable.


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