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> I don’t think people have thought hard enough about how bad this could get.

given that the crypto anarchist papers from the 90s that these markets are built on are very well thought out instruction manuals about how bad it could get, this title implies users are gullible idiots as opposed to the creators and power users

An individual's susceptibility to a vice is an individual problem. So I take issue with all the flippant comments about this being a "gambling loophole", like, who cares? I don't think any financial game should be seen as a different category than the other.

Even the "positive expected value" framework masquaraded as a distinction between trading and a casino game is completely false and entirely a cultural distinction. There are many equities and bond trades that have lower expected value than a casino game, even this forum is populated by people that receive shares and derivatives as compensation, who will earn nothing - even lose money - under positive outcomes. Exhibit A. Not everyone needs to care how a particular financial game is perceived. Not all cultures need any social segregation of gambling versus another way of making money from money. I'd rather be part of those cultures. And in the US/Western gambling regulatory frameworks and prohibitions, prediction markets don't fit, that isn't a loophole to me. They are structurally different and I'm not entirely sure what people want to happen and how it is supposed to be enforced. I don't get the impression they've looked at all, and are just operating on a feeling that I find irrelevant.

And on the insiders, yes, that's the point of prediction markets. They are intended to be distributed bounties with plausible deniability. That's literally what Jim Bell's 1995 crypto-anarchist paper was about.

In the natural course of finance, every asset, including information, should be tradable, as long as improvements in liquidity continue to come.


> An individual's susceptibility to a vice is an individual problem.

Maybe if you're Tom Hanks in Castaway. In real life, people contract lung damage from secondhand smoke; homes are mortgaged to fund gambling habits; families are destroyed by drunk drivers.

That's not to say that people can't partake in their vices responsibly. But the idea that any harms are limited to the person with the problem is just not true.


the basis of my view is the observation that homes can be mortgaged to trade financial markets as well

all the protective frameworks out there do not prevent someone from becoming a debt serf or excluded from the credit markets if they want to


Sure, there isn't a silver bullet that magically prevents all possible harm while also imposing no burden or inconvenience. The basis of my view is that the non-existence of such a framework is a terrible reason to have no protective framework at all.

I think adding barriers to doing something dumb:

1. Gives the person more opportunities to reconsider.

2. Gives loved ones more opportunities to notice what's happening and intervene.

There's a world of difference between refinancing your home by visiting a bank several times over a period of a few weeks and refinancing your home by tapping a few buttons on your phone.

The difference convenience makes to the rate of making errors in judgement is actually so obvious that even military equipment will have additional steps you have to take to enable lethal weapons/eject/etc.


That’s a lot of words to tell everyone you don’t know what an “externality” is.

You put your own case powerfully, but you don’t seem to have reacted to Derek Thompson‘s case, except to say that you’re not bothered about gambling addiction. (And why not? If people predictably do things that are bad for themselves, that damages the efficiency case for free markets and everything.)

I did read his article, and there are the geopolitical events and the sporting events he talks about.

I don't really understand why sports leagues require faith in their institution. Is the economy overleveraged on collateral debt swaps on league merchandise sells? Is our economy built on preteens in Nebraska believing their only way out of there is a worthwhile pursuit?

I'm not sure why I am supposed to care about the sanctity of that market, what are the consequences of it feeling rigged? and the FBI was on those insider trades instantly, so the sports side seems tightly regulated already whether I understand why a segment of that market needs certain assurances.

And the non-sporting trades I recognize the danger of, the liquidity in the market altering the outcome as someone in control of the outcome does something selfish. I say do what we can to avoid the death markets and the nuclear ones, but distributed bounties otherwise are very transparent and efficient wealth distribution mechanisms that fulfill other goals of compensating labor more correctly.


Surely a big point of sport is to get young people to do healthy, character-building team activities. That requires sporting heroes they can look up to, rather than cheats who will throw a game for money.

It doesn’t require that

Representation is a powerful driver for a large swath of humans, there are many others who get inspired for other reasons, or inspired by fictional characters

I’m fine with those other traits being expressed more frequently


> An individual's susceptibility to a vice is an individual problem.

That ignore the societal influence on an individual. If everyone around you gambles, you are more inclined to take up gambling.


Not ignoring, deterring the state from involving itself in anything except the individual.

> An individual's susceptibility to a vice is an individual problem.

libertarianism is a cancer


Not as much as Communism, but both seem like utopian ideologies based on an idealized model of human behavior.

Good, contributory copyright infringement is an invention of the courts and I’m glad that finally made it to the Supreme Court

Bigger deal than people think

I believe this removes the liability from seeding just a chunk of a torrent, we can get those seed ratios back up without VPNs and seed boxes


Can you elaborate on what change you would like to occur?

I have voted based on getting particular people nominated within a federal agency, requires the President to pick someone who will 100% be from their party, and a Senate committee that will confirm them

people tend to think "I'm voting against my best interests" without knowing that the agency control was my best interest as it will most likely continue shaping an industry far beyond any particular administration

I could see that happening again with your abstract, vague, and ambiguous idea. Just say what you mean specifically, use your words, so I know if it's something that could steer my vote or not


You had two options and one was clearly far worse than the other. This nuanced-excuse-making and “the democrats also occasionally do things I don’t like” is lazy. Take responsibility for letting the mob take over - even if it was just by inaction.

I didn’t turn 18 in the last several years

So the odds I’m talking about the current administration are low

I wrote that I have voted for an agency appointment before, and the person I replied to also is suggesting to do that again

yes, only democrats use the meme “voting against their best interest”, sometimes this voting pattern includes or excludes them


Very doubtful whatever agency you can conjour up as an excuse will be more impactful than the country wide changed induced by the overall administration

cute that you think impact is the goal

vote in your local elections if the feds aren't involved the way you wish


fatiguing

Alot of discussions from trans people have been very validating of gendered experiences as they get to objectively experience both and see the difference

Do you believe that they get an unadulterated perspective of both experiences? That they would be getting the experience of a woman rather than that of a trans woman?

Apparently some make a distinction regarding whether they pass or not to address this. James Barnes is one person whose written about this

https://www.newsweek.com/trans-man-broken-men-1817169


That’s a great article but it confuses me how the author shows affinity for so many feminine traits and stereotypically feminine interests, that I wonder what the draw or perceived appeal of living as a man was.

Maybe that’s in a different article.


> I feel safer; I no longer walk around at night clinging to pepper spray

some people report not being talked over in office settings

honestly you could benefit from talking to someone professionally if this is still confusing to you by now. Its not uncommon for this to be confusing, you could just accelerate your understanding by having someone deconstruct why it is still confusing for you


Well, I imagine gender dysphoria is more than thinking the grass is greener

Thank you for sharing that, that was a valuable read.

It's an interesting philosophical question. Even if a male who makes some effort to disguise himself as female claims that he now experiences life as women may, in a general sense, do so, I don't see how he could possibly know if this is true or not. Being male and not female, he doesn't have this experiential frame of reference to make the comparison.

Depends how well they pass and if the other person knew them pre-transition.

those considered passing, yes

and that of a man as a trans man. there is a lot less fanfare, media, and discernment on this compared to trans women, while being more common than people think


I think its an attempt at resurgence

very misaligned! sprays bottle at mac mini

I would buy more complex arguments around housing price solutions if ALL housing price problems everywhere else hadn't been solved by building more housing

> I definitely view it as a red flag if a business doesn't have a website in 2026

from the article:

> If you’re a hair salon, or a tattoo artist, or a restaurant

these services definitely do not need a website

a luddite user just needs a way of getting basic information from where its already posted online. so this is a user experience problem, easily solved by an ai agent that takes whats posted on instagram, yelp, and google maps, and presents it to luddites in a way they are familiar with


what you really need is a service that tunnels information from instagram and facebook businesses onto their display

although you can look at some of them without an account on those services today, and maybe, but maybe not tomorrow

so just need to boost the information people have posted, into something else


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