> My real complaint is that none of these give you a way to do persistence that doesn't destroy some other really nice properties of containers.
100% agree with you there.
> It mostly just keeps them even with Kubernetes at best. And an imitation of it at worst.
Personally, when I looked at kubernetes, mesos, etc and saw the xml hell that i'd be living in and said "no way".
If i have to run something as complex as those to have docker then it's not worth it to me.
When I look at the new docker swarm stuff. For the first time I think that docker is a viable thing (assuming it all works). because I'm not adding additional complexity to get my docker simplicity.
Not sure why you are being downvoted. My sentiment is similar... Docker's historical advantage over other solutions is easy-to-use interface ( including Dockerfile). Can't wait to try swarm out.
100% agree with you there.
> It mostly just keeps them even with Kubernetes at best. And an imitation of it at worst.
Personally, when I looked at kubernetes, mesos, etc and saw the xml hell that i'd be living in and said "no way".
If i have to run something as complex as those to have docker then it's not worth it to me.
When I look at the new docker swarm stuff. For the first time I think that docker is a viable thing (assuming it all works). because I'm not adding additional complexity to get my docker simplicity.