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Taycan is a better car in every respect than the Model S.

VW ID.3/4 are looking like being winners and will likely outclass the Model 3/Y. eTron, I-PACE and EQC are all selling well against the Model X.

And again. Everyone is coming into EV this year and next.



The Taycan is $150k - it is not a mass market EV.

The VW ID.3/4 are not coming to North America.

The eTron, last month sold 434 units in the US. The Model X sold 1,675 in the same month in the US. The Model 3? 20,250. The I-PACE sold 160 units and the EQC isn't being sold yet. The eTron has been a massive sales disaster, sales are not growing. https://insideevs.com/news/369439/august-audi-e-tron-sales-u... https://insideevs.com/news/373812/ev-sales-scorecard-septemb...

I'm not trying to say Tesla has no risks at all, but you have to _really squint_ to not seem them as the clear market leader currently. The Model 3 simply has no competitors today - and to invoke the Taycan is about as disingenuous as it can get.


> The Taycan is $150k - it is not a mass market EV.

Ahh, I see - the line must be at $120k, right? Since I can order a $115k Tesla which is somehow mass market?


a) Model S isn't a mass market EV either.

b) VW ID.4 is coming to the US.

c) There is more to this world than the US so not sure why you seem to restrict the sales there.


If you think the Taycan is better in "every respect" then you haven't cross shopped them.

Its a good car, but this is as exaggerated a position as I've seen from anyone on either side.


The Taycan is more expensive and has 100 less miles range than the S.

The VW ID.3 is ugly, and it's long range version is 100 less miles than the Model 3 long range version.

Neither have Tesla's charging network either.

Range and charging is the most important thing about an ELECTRIC car. 100 miles is a big gap, and every car coming out has that gap.


Not to mention the Model S is faster 0-60 and cheaper.


VW ID.3 looks similar to the Golf which is a massive seller so I wouldn't assume your particular tastes are representative of everyone.

And in many places e.g. EU the Tesla charging network isn't a huge advantage as you have superior alternatives e.g. Ionity.


Where’s the charging network? Why do you not mention 100-150 miles less range when comparing the Taycan to the S and X?

“The maximum range for the Taycan is listed as just 450 km (279 miles) on the WLTP test cycle. The Audi is rated at 255 miles on WLTP and 204 on the U.S, EPA cycle. When the Taycan gets its EPA certification, it will likely have a range of around 220 miles.” - Forbes




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