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It wasn't a "video", back then they only had ... never mind.


Are you trying to say they didn't have video in 1963?


I'm referring to the fact that the "video" in question was an 8mm color film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film

Obviously "video" existed then in the sense that there was television -- but consumer video cameras didn't appear until around 1979 or 1980.


yes, he's saying they only had film in 1963


A quick search (wikipedia) shows videotape existed in 1956, at $300/hr.


Just as an fyi, that's pretty massive tape used in a broadcast studio.

The first consumer video camera (camera that recorded to tape rather than film) wasn't until the BetaMovie in 1983 with VHS coming months later. Heck, _home_ video recorders were still 15-20 years off at the time.


thanks, I wasn't aware, although whether or not they had what vanusa was saying seemed obvious.


Right - something for studios, not the man on the street.


What do you think TV is?


TV is a video you can't rewind. Not the real thing.


I dont even know what you are trying to say.


The commenter thinks the Zapruder film was a "video" is what I'm saying.


I assume all the times I've watched it, it's been from video format. I really doubt they were playing the 8mm every time live and broadcasting. So... I guess it's now a video and not film.


In what way is it not a video?


As a generalization: Video, going back to before the digital era, refers to images recorded on magnetic videotapes, such as VHS or Betamax. This is in contrast with film, which is images recorded using light sensitive silver halide crystals. Video tapes are viewed by scanning the magnetic strips and displaying on a monitor with scan lines. Films are viewed by shining a light through the developed film and displaying the whole image on a reflective screen.


Not quite. Video is generally an electronic medium for moving pictures and can be sent over cables or radio waves from the camera to the TV, without touching a tape. A video signal can be recorded on a tape, but isn't necessarily.


Yes, you are right. Looks like you squeezed in your comment before I was able to put the "as a generalization" disclaimer on it! :)

I was thinking more of the situation where some people might be confused with the Zapruder recording, that it could be on videotape instead of film, which is why I didn't try to cover all the corner cases.


It was film. Video is an electronic signal stored on tape (originally)


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Don't be rude. @dang enforces rules against this.


Video can refer to non-digital media, see: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/video

It still doesn't say that video includes "film". You can make a video recording of a film of course, but that's different.

And even if it didn't, what did you think I meant? And how is that even relevant to the question?

It seems you were confused about something that used to be a very obvious distinction, that not too long ago no one would trip up on (the difference between "video" and "film"). It's not especially relevant of course, it was just weird.


Your stance on this is intriguing to me. I'm treating this thread as a neat little obscure, pedantic fact that I learned today- that historically the word "video" had a distinct meaning from "film".

Because never once in my 40-some years as an English speaking American have I ever seen this distinction. The two words are functionally synonyms in common usage, or perhaps the common usage would be something like "film" is a subset of "video".

Perhaps it varies with geography or industry? Maybe Americans use the terms interchangeably but Brits don't? Or maybe within the entertainment or photography industries experts use the terms with more precision than the average citizen?


I think you're just not old enough. Back in the 1960s, film and video were distinct mediums. For one thing, film had a lot higher resolution. For another, they ran at different frame rates. There were tricks to convert film to video (3:2 pulldown), but nobody went from video to film - the resolution was so limited, it would look terrible.


I'm American and I've always heard them used as distinct terms. I think your experience may be unusual in this regard.




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