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> the system has to be rearchitected to solve

If it was obvious how to, we'd be talking about that, but it's not even obvious how to. A process to solve a problem no one knows how to solve can get co-opted and yield something awful, so I am not inclined to start one yet.

Moreover, there must be plenty of room for innovation.

We're all using TCP/IP, which is a great win for interoperability, but also an enabler of proprietary application protocols above it because it didn't try to preclude them. We've missed out on some things though, in the CNLP/OSI side of things, but I'm not familiar enough with them to know just how tragic, if at all, that is -- we're pretty happy with TCP/IP anyways. Do note that no one forced TCP/IP on anyone. The best interop is that which arises w/o the use of force.



>> the system has to be rearchitected to solve

> If it was obvious how to, we'd be talking about that, but it's not even obvious how to

We're in agreement, both on that and on your points on how innovation does happen. Basically all of the decentralization projects in the past ten years, from federation to p2p to blockchains, have been taking a stab at the greenfield approach. None of them have worked in the sense that they displace existing approaches, but I remain hopeful that something useful can come out of it all.

As a fun aside, one of the more interesting semi-adversarial approaches I've seen was Delta Chat [1] which basically put a chat interface on top of email.

1. https://delta.chat/en/




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