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You’re wrong on many levels.

Joe Rogan as recently as last week said the vaccine is mostly safe and saved millions of lives. What he says is that the vaccine is more dangerous to some people than the narratives and pharmaceutical companies says. And he despises how you can’t even talk about the negative effects for some people without being cast as an anti-vaxxer. You entirely proved his point.

The exact same thing applies to transgender people. He believes 100% in their ability to be treated as the gender they believe they are. But his main disagreement is pretending that it’s okay that biological males vs biological females is fair. It’s not, especially in sports like MMA which he is an expert in.

Yet by talking about it, he is cast as a transphobe just like you accused him of.

And to correct you further, the 90s were the period where gay rights went mainstream so you’re even wrong about that. That when people started understanding that it wasn’t a choice and was biological. Shows like Dawson’s Creek really humanized being gay for an entire generation. That’s when Canada made gay marriage legal.



He described Fallon Fox as "a man in a dress." Rogan's statements about transwomen are considerably broader than "I just want to talk about the impact on sporting regulations."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act

Passed the House on July 12, 1996 (342–67) Passed the Senate on September 10, 1996 (85–14)

What happened later is remarkable, but it wasn't even close in 1996.


That in response to the growing pro gay rights movement.


> Joe Rogan as recently as last week said the vaccine is mostly safe

- "How Joe Rogan Became a Cheerleader for Ivermectin" [1]

- "Fact-Checking Joe Rogan’s Interview With Robert Malone That Caused an Uproar" [2]

- "What the Joe Rogan podcast controversy says about the online misinformation ecosystem" [3]

> But his main disagreement is pretending that it’s okay that biological males vs biological females is fair.

Sports isn't fair, period. It's why there's no "under 6 foot" NBA league. It's only with trans people that people suddenly (pretend to) care.

> And to correct you further, the 90s were the period where gay rights went mainstream

- "ABC shelves Ellen" (1998) [4]

- "Why Laura Dern Didn't Work For A Year, Despite Jurassic Park's Success" [5]

- "How ‘homophobia’ denied Sharon Bottoms custody of her son in the 1990s" [6]

Examples here are legion. Homophobia permeated popular culture (eg TV and box office movies). There was progress made, sure, but homophobia was so normalized at the time. I have to wonder if you lived through this era (as I did) or just read about it.

I mean, homophobia was still weaponized into the 2000s. Many credit Karl Rove with weaponizing state ballot measures on gay marriage to win the 2004 presidential election [7].

> Dawson’s Creek

technically the coming out storyline was 1999-2000 I believe and was controversial. Roseanne [8] is probably a better example. Picket Fences ended up censoring a kiss scene in 1993 [9] and caused quite a lot of controversy at the time.

[1]: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/joe-ro...

[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/arts/music/fact-check-joe...

[3]: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/21/1074442185/joe-rogan-doctor-c...

[4]: https://money.cnn.com/1998/04/24/bizbuzz/ellen/

[5]: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2485962/why-laura-dern-didn...

[6]: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-homophobia-denied-shar...

[7]: https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=230634&page=1

[8]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Ask,_Don%27t_Tell_(Ros...

[9]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_%26_Spice_(Picket_Fences...


Nothing you posted contradicts what I said. Questioning the vaccine doesn’t mean that he didn’t think it was safe for most people. He even almost got the vaccine if not for a scheduling conflict.

When I said “mainstream” I didn’t mean they were generally accepted. I meant that the issue of gay rights became a topic. Some places like Canada openly legalized gay marriage without much of a protest. Gay rights infection point was definitely in the 90s and only got stronger. It wasn’t like the 80s where gays were openly mocked like in Three’s Company




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