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Most non-sociopaths would experience a huge amount of shame/stress from stealing billions of dollars from trusting people and losing it. SBF shows none of that.


He says in the DMs that the most important thing in his life now is making customers whole and returning their funds.

"that's basically all that matters for the rest of my life"


Are you f'ing kidding me, taking this at face value?

Note in other tweets he said he was trying to "raise capital". The man is likely going to prison for years, he is either delusional or trying to promote his delusions to pretend the he didn't know what he was doing was wrong.


Looks like pretty classic desperation, which is an expected response to this situation for plenty of personality types that aren't indicative of anti-social personality disorder.


> Are you f'ing kidding me, taking this at face value?

Well we can't cherry-pick the sociopathy as real and then start second guessing the bit where he sounds a lot less like a sociopath... can we?


Considering that sociopaths (by definition) do damaging things to people while also:

-Using intelligence, charm, or charisma to manipulate others.

- Not learning from mistakes or punishment.

- Lying for personal gain.

It seems fair to call out that you can’t trust their statements this way, if that is what is going on. It’s pretty much the nature of the disorder.


My issue is only using the half of the source that backs up the assessment (of sociopathy) and ignoring the other half that contradicts it. That is not fair, balanced or even good guessing, its just seeing what you want to see in the data by excluding what doesn't support your theory.


Are you responding to me, the original poster who was claiming sociopathy, or responding to the world in general?

All I was doing is pointing out that if person A claims person B is lying about their motivations and good deeds and actually causing harm because they are a sociopath, saying person A can’t claim that doesn’t make much sense.

I have no particularly strong opinion in if anyone is or is not a sociopath. I’m just pointing out that lying about your intentions and good deeds while causing harm is a pretty textbook element of ASPD. It’s certainly not unique to ASPD of course!

Do you have specific elements of sociopathy you think can’t apply?

Or more just pointing out all of this is bullshit speculation anyway because no one can diagnose someone off a couple of tweets in the middle of a scandal anyway?


hn_throwaway is the user that wants to use this as a source to prove SBF's sociopathy but then mocks another user for taking anything he says in the same source at face value. That's why I'm commenting, because that looks to me like a double-standard.


For HIS life, meaning he’s likely to go to prison if he fails to make his depositors whole. He doesn’t care about his customers which is why he embezzled the money, didn’t do any accounting, created a backdoor in the finance software, and tried to keep the charade going for as long as he could.


I don't interpret it that way. I interpret this as "the most important thing is getting myself out of this jam - because otherwise I'm going to prison and my life is fucked."


I agree that after all of his lies, and they are numerous, today is the day we should start trusting what he says. /s




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