Which is equally dumb for a Pro as 8GB for a non-pro at this price.

It would be ok if the upgrades would not be so freakishly expensive. RAM is on an all-time low, still Apple wants 460€ !!! for 16 GB RAM more here in Europe.

The worst thing about that upgrade pricing is that you know it’s basically pure profit for Apple. Sure, there’s an Apple tax that gets you build quality, aesthetics, better iOS integration, no OS licensing etc, but that’s already been priced into base model. RAM and SSD upgrades are just priced like Diet Coke in a fancy restaurant.

The 13 inch starts with 8.

Which starts at lower prices. But you're right, I forgot about this model because I do not consider it a Pro model anymore.

That 13" model is so confusing. It's such a bad buy in many ways compared to the 14"