> And I know I'm a bit out there, but perhaps the people in the disputed territories should get a vote?

You mean just like the vote in Crimea in 2014 right? With a gun pointed at their backs under the supervision of the military?.

There’s no way that, any vote like that is in anyway shape or form fair and will result in any outcome other than what the people pointing the guns want.

Perhaps the time to discuss this was before the 2014 invasion. I doubt Ukraine would acquiesce to it now.

It's unfortunate that Nations can't agree to respect the borders they agreed upon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_border#...

Russia would be happy to put it to a vote, now that they've relocated over a million Ukrainians from the Donbas to "filtration camps".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_filtration_camps_for...

God forbid we react to the utterly inhumane invasion of Ukraine with the disgust it deserves. Stop trying to make cover for Putin behind a veil of insincere civility.

but… What if they vote russia?