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i get that phones can last several years now, but it helps when you start with a good one.

maybe i lucked out with the phone i chose, but what it offered for under 500 is still phones struggle to do 4+ years later (e.g. 4k 60fps recordings, baring the quality matter). meanwhile, this one is starting with an enterprise version of a dated midrange for a processor.

while i keep respecting the mission they've managed to maintain, the oneplus-like price creep and catching up to the rest approach is not for everyone. but what you get is hard to argue if you'd *want* to use a phone like this after 8 years.

also the audience that would commit to this phone also tends to be the most demanding, as you can see from other comments. i personally would've loved dp out over usb-C.

it is indeed a tough market and i wish them the best.



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