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Don't worry, Nintendo is pretty skilled at destroying itself the way it treats its fans, by suing them.


I have a feeling that Nintendo gaming would outlast Xbox gaming.


Because Microsoft is smart thinking long term and doesn't care about an outdated model of selling consoles anymore, as it sees the future revenues comes from owning valuable IP and monetizing that instead on all the gaming platforms, regardless on which hardware you use to paly it: Xbox, PS5, Switch, Steam, iOS, Android, Linux, MacOS, tablets, smart-TVs, etc., they don't care, they'll gladly take your money regardless if you have an Xbox or not.

They're slowly dethatching themselves from the console HW and moving to selling services the same way the detached from Windows and Office as the core products and made more money selling O365 and Azure subscriptions including their arch nemesis Linux.

That's why they keep selling CoD to the competitor's Sony PlayStation instead of making it an Xbox excusive like Sony and fans feared they would. People, and Sony, still don't get it, that Microsft's new business model is monetizing IPs and services, not selling more console HW thanks to exclusives like the old days. They'll probably make more money form Candy Crush than Sony makes from Last of us on PlayStation.

Holding on to the "console war" ("muh console sold more than your console!") is just silly and outdated. The big money is now gonna be in IP and services, not selling console HW, and Apple also knows this which is why it focuses more on new services for existing customers (ApleTV, credit cards, SOS satelite, etc) and less on selling more iPhones to new customers as the hardware market is already saturated.

Nintendo will outlast the Xbox, but Microsoft will outlast Nintendo.


Seems Nintendo IP is way more valuable than what Microsoft owns (and has, by and large, mismanaged)


>Nintendo IP is way more valuable than what Microsoft owns

Source: trust me bro?

Microsft's Xbox division saw ~15 billion of revenue while Nintendo saw 12 billion revenue last year.


IP as in Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, etc.


I strongly doubt that


> Because Microsoft is smart thinking long term and doesn't care about an outdated model of selling consoles anymore, as it sees the future revenues comes from owning valuable IP and monetizing that [...]

> Holding on to the "console war" ("muh console sold more than your console!") is just silly and outdated. The big money is now gonna be in IP and services

Perhaps, but I'm pretty sure that Nintendo is aware of the value of their IP, given they've used the exclusivity of their IP to sell merchandise and hardware for what, 40 years now? If in the future, there isn't enough money in selling hardware, and keeping a slice off the money from games release on their hardware, they'll still have a very deep well of IP they can monetize in a number of ways.


Consoles aren't going to be obsolete anytime soon while the alternatives, PCs and laptops, are more expensive, worse at the same price range, and provide worse handheld experience. Less of a market share maybe, but still a viable niche.


I wonder if the Steam Deck might challenge that. It's already sold more units than I think anyone really expected. It has a library and other capabilities that no console maker can ever hope to match while retaining consoles' convenience.


MS pretty much merged Xbox and PC which is what the comment above you probably meant.

From MSs perspective Xbox is just a lockdown gaming PC tied to their store


Except they bought Bethesda just to make their games exclusive to Xbox/PC


This.


It's supremely ignorant to call a 133 year old company who has the most recognizable IPs in the world and 14 BILLION dollars in revenue "skilled at destroying itself."


Nokia was also a 100 year old company with a 71 billion dollar revenue in 2007. Should I spoil the ending for you, or do you already know it?

No big company is invincible just because it's old and makes a lot of money today.


Your reference to Nokia is too random so I can say Apple is next Nokia.


Nobody said they were??


"Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM."


What is your point? The comment I was replying to said "Nintendo is pretty skilled at destroying itself" which is objectively false.


IBM in this case refers to Microsoft?

/sarcasm


In what way? A 100+ year old company who is riding high of the success off the Switch and just released a movie that made over a billion dollars doesn’t seem to be destroying itself.


People said the same thing about Nokia when the iPhone launched.


You are comparing a purely device manufacturer to a company with the most recognizable and valuable IP in the world.

Nokia didn’t have Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Splatoon, Metroid, etc.

Also what launched that is a game changer like the iPhone? What did I miss?


Destroying culture could be argued, but Nintendo is an ancient company, by modern definition.


They seem to be doing perfectly fine?




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