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> it just "works,"

For certain values of "works"

> Elon really got this right from the beginning, but Waymo's aggressive PR and marketing have pitted public opinion against Tesla

Consider the opposite



> Consider the opposite

Um, yes.

Watch videos from Waymo customers in San Francisco. There are plenty of them online. See Waymo cars navigate San Francisco. See them cope successfully with traffic cones, bicycles, cable car tracks tracks, double-parked delivery trucks, small animals, construction, and wandering druggies.[1][2] Totally automatic. Nobody behind the wheel.

Then watch videos of Tesla self-driving in a city, with the latest "beta self driving". Two manual interventions in the first minute.[3]

Waymo has real self-driving. Tesla has fake self-driving.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7LXFjQ7hHs

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBvce_eC28A

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDxjB6bFLRg


I agree completely. I'd say something more like "Waymo really got this right from the beginning, but Uber, Tesla, and Cruise's behavior have poisoned opinions about self-driving"


Much the same way you have cherry-picked examples of Waymo doing well and FSD not doing well, I too can cherry-pick examples of FSD doing well and Waymo not doing well.

I would encourage you to review the actual data. FSD is currently the industry leader in numbers of miles driven per incident. https://x.com/TashaARK/status/1727463951254863949

I expect this to improve even more with FSD 12.


Tesla's definition of "crash" is "we count all crashes in which the incident alert indicated an airbag or other active restraint deployed."[1] Waymo's definition of "crash" includes minor fender-benders.

[1] https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport




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