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you're free to describe gassing up as this arduous event that takes all this time, planning, and mental energy, but that doesn't make it true, and while your wife may have anxiety around gas stations, most women don't unless they're gassing up in a strange place late at night. It's generally a non-issue.
You can be pro-EV without trying so hard to vilify gas.
I don't know, I really hate gas station trips. It's not, like, a dealbreaker, but if I had a car that I could just plug in in the garage, it would be a fairly sizable improvement. Plus it's expensive as hell, 10 EUR per 100km.
But plugging into a garage outlet isnt available to everyone. Take that garage outlet away and require yourself to go to a location and sit for an hour to charge. Is it still better?
That's a bit of a fallacy, because "a location" will probably be "the place where I parked my car", given how easy it is to transport electricity and how profitable it is to install a cheap charger on the sidewalk. I'd very much rather go to "a location" of "where I happened to park" than a dedicated gas station (which isn't very far, but isn't right where my car is).
> That's a bit of a fallacy, because "a location" will probably be "the place where I parked my car"
Maybe. The closest public charging station to our house is in the parking lot of a semi-abandoned office complex a mile away. It has the best rate but my partner refuses to use it, both for the boredom factor and the isolated location factor.
The second closest is 5 miles away at a Whole Food which yes, the car would be parked there sometimes anyway. But having to spend an extra hour sipping coffee at WF waiting for the car gets old pretty fast.
Sure, that's now (the closest EV charging spot is pretty far away for me too). The convenience factor for "when everyone has EVs" is much larger than the one for "when everyone has gas cars", as in the former, the refuelling station is going to be much closer, on average, than in the latter.
This is the reality for me now. I have a charging station about a mile away, and another a couple miles away. But I’m still supposed to find an additional 1-2 hours per week to charge my vehicle?
Yes, I can see that becoming the case at some point. For the past decade (the time we've had EVs) and even today, it's not though (at least around here). So EV ownership is still a daily logistical exercise.
True, if you don't have a garage or other way to charge when parked, it's an issue. Over here we have chargers in many super market/mall parking lots, so you can charge while shopping for groceries, which is very convenient.
If you can’t charge at home it’s an issue. Charging while running errands again will not work (what if you do almost everything online? amazon fresh, etc)
The only way this works is reducing 0-100 charge time to 5 mins.
Indeed. All I need to know about gas is that I paid $50 this morning for ~450km of range. While my EV would take multiple charges to get that range, the total cost would be only a few dollars.
On a purely fuel cost/KM basis, but you don’t save money on the long term with an EV. You have to do a LOT of driving to make up the difference between the vehicle costs and infrastructure costs.
I haven’t had to ‘go get gas’ for 4 years. People probably argued “getting water from the well isn’t that hard compared to maintaining all this infrastructure”… but none of us want to go back to that. Completely losing a class of chore is freeing, even if it wasn’t that horrible anyway.
For long distance trips, I mostly agree with you. My habit was always to stop every hour to get a drink and stretch legs so it doesn’t bother me as much. For your 11 hr trip, it would probably add 2 hours.
I'd assume that the parent post compared walking outside your door to a well in your own yard, as used to be the common practice in the countryside, which indeed takes much less time than gassing up a vehicle but obviously not something you'd want to do if you can have indoor plumbing instead.
you're free to describe gassing up as this arduous event that takes all this time, planning, and mental energy, but that doesn't make it true, and while your wife may have anxiety around gas stations, most women don't unless they're gassing up in a strange place late at night. It's generally a non-issue.
You can be pro-EV without trying so hard to vilify gas.