Can we also talk about the green button is "full screen" and not a maximized window?
I had an app that adds windows tiling that also added this feature and it made osx a breeze to use. Better touch type or something like that.
I went back to windows because I couldn't give up my magsafe and HDMI port. Go figure immediately after I bought a Razer blade apple understood their error and brought back the magsafe and HDMI ports.
These things constantly change and who has time for all of that?
Windows to me is intuitive by default, I can't find macOS intuitive after 10 years even when being forced to work with it professionally.
I still can't deal with copy paste ctrl/cmd btn being in an awkward position and if I change it in the settings other problems ensue. My muscle memory is all kinds of done.
>These things constantly change and who has time for all of that?
While Apple does change some things with some regularity, the change from "Zoom Window" to "Full Screen" for the green button (and it's alternate behavior when holding option) has been in place since 10.7, 13 years ago. The ability to double click a window titlebar to get the same effect has been in place since the classic mac OS days. I imagine most people have time within a 13 year period to type "Maximize" into the Help search and read the "Move and arrange app windows" topic, and specifically the "Maximize or minimize app windows" section therein.
> the change from "Zoom Window" to "Full Screen" for the green button (and it's alternate behavior when holding option) has been in place since 10.7
Not exactly, full screen was introduced in 10.7 (Lion) but it used a separate button on the right side of the window. 10.10 (Yosemite) moved it to the green button.
Because you are used to it. It would've been the other way around if you grew up with macOS. I have no problem with both of these systems after spending the time to get used to how macOS behaves. Hated it at first too after being "forced" to use it at work because I wanted to use it like Windows.
But I still feel bad about using it even though I have been using it as primary for 10 years now.
All the little details annoy me, like the animations, settings, mouse acceleration, etc, etc.
I know some animations can be turned off, some things can be tweaked, but this is also annoying.
I haven't ever seen as cheesy animations as the genie or the annoying jumping icon.
Spotlight search rarely giving me the results I want, then at last moment when I'm going to pick something, changing the results, etc.
And in general the toolbar design I don't like at all, I still can't reliably feel it out when the toolbar should pop up from the bottom when not, and then all the windows are kind of positioned in a messed up way due to that, either having a weird gap below when the toolbar is not visible.
I swear, half the people on HN are OSX sychophants who can't fathom a minor criticism on the UX for OSX. It doesn't, "just work" all the time and guess what? Even IOS has its own UX quirks (swipe back ring a bell)?
We get it, you're a herd follower and like looking cool by buying over priced fashion tech pieces.
This may come as a surprise to you, but I don't care. I don't have time to read manuals and spend time on the welcome documentation.
If it isn't obvious OOTB how to use somettbing like an OS that is built on the presupposition of ease of us, then your UX is bad and not intuitive. We're not talking specializes software here like a DAW or a IDE. It's a desktop OS ffs.
There’s a help menu right at the top of the screen. In every app it will search the menus and provided application help. In the finder, it also has a “macOS help” item which brings up the offline user manual, including the table of contents where you will find the entry “Apps -> Work with app windows -> Maximize or minimize app windows”
I agree that that's no excuse and I'm genuinely sorry about your wife's experience, but it just doesn't happen to many people. I'm currently on my first iPhone, a 13 Mini, and I don't remember it ever "crashing". I don't even know what that looks like, like if there's an error message or if it just hangs or goes black, I don't know how to force-reboot it, because I don't need to. My fiancée and my dad are both on their first iPhones and (because I'm the one who talked them into it) I ask them regularly if they're happy — they both are, with zero issues.
To be fair, there was a period when Safari on my iPad would hang occasionally, and that got resolved by an update.
Window management in macOS has gotten worse over time.
There are at least 3 ways to do everything now (e.g. Classic windowing, fullscreen splits, Spaces, Stage Manager), and they're all a bit crap.
Apple needs to implement a proper window management API that lets you replace Dock.app (which controls a lot of window management suff IIRC) so that we can do it ourselves and not rely on accessibility API hacks or disabling SIP.
I had an app that adds windows tiling that also added this feature and it made osx a breeze to use. Better touch type or something like that.
I went back to windows because I couldn't give up my magsafe and HDMI port. Go figure immediately after I bought a Razer blade apple understood their error and brought back the magsafe and HDMI ports.