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1Password has gotten progressively worse. It's now an Electron app (so it's slower to load), and some features have stopped working well.

They took VC funding to pivot to enterprise, anticipating that OS vendors would integrate basic password management features (what most of their usage at the time) into the OS.

So the consumer experience has been de-prioritized. I will not be renewing my 1Password subscription.



Oh the classic irrational HN hate on JS/Electron... 1Password 8 takes <1s to load from scratch on my machine, and is instant most of the time since it runs in background.


when every app loads an entire duplicate browser stack then your RAM is wasted out of cheapness and negligence.

Moreover, I shouldn’t need a cutting edge microprocessor just to look at my saved passwords. Multiplied across 15 million 1Password users, even 1 second amounts to about six months of collective time wasted for each app launch.

I would never hire any developer who disregarded their users’ time, UI experience, and computing resources so blatantly.


50% of people on HN seems unable to understand that developing UIs using web technologies is 2-3x faster than using Native frameworks. If anything, just from the benefit of not having to develop 5 versions of the UI (MacOS, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android) but just 1 responsive web app.

In my perspective clearly the blatant disregard for UI experience is wanting to develop native apps just for hypothetical RAM savings or similar ideological preconceptions on performance that are not real or relevant in practice.

Electron apps are now everywhere because THEY WIN. Figma, Slack, VSCode all succeed in large part thanks to being Electron apps. HN denial of this simple fact is copium


Something being ubiquitous in the marketplace does not automatically translate into it being objectively or materially "better" for consumers.

Fast food is everywhere because it's cheap and fast. And diabetes and heart disease rates are skyrocketing worldwide. Is that "winning" in your eyes?




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