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I think people's reaction to e.g. Intel ME and SGX is also "this shouldn't exist on consumer hardware", and it makes perfect sense to be happy about being able to control both as the owner. The owner is supposed to be god on the system. They're supposed to have a sudo that really gives them full power over everything. sudo (on the bare metal ring) is supposed to let the user see the true state of everything, hold all the keys, arbitrarily rewrite memory, etc.


thank you for exemplifying the mindset to which I was referring.

yes, that’s the weird sickly affection for AMD, and the weird sickly philosophical defense of a high-severity CVE on pseudointellectual principles.

people would really rather we rethink the whole of secure-boot rather than admit AMD has a serious bug they won’t fix, lol


Ever since I heard of TCPA in the early 2000s I was of the opinion that this is technology that undermines the owner's control of their own computer. Back then it even seemed as if that is a move by Microsoft to get rid of Linux, which gladly didn't happen. It has nothing to do wit Intel Vs AMD. At all.


It has nothing to do with AMD vs Intel. I'm glad if these things become "compromised" in both cases because they're designed to undermine the owner. They shouldn't be on consumer chips, and if they don't actually do what they say, great! Control can be restored to the person to whom it belongs.

I'm also happy that you can get a cheap converter to plug your Ryobi batteries into your DeWalt drill, breaking their anti-consumer "features". Likewise with third party printer ink. All good stuff.




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