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There's a simple rule, if Musk founded the company and it does well then it doesn't matter that he founded the company. (SpaceX)

However if Musk didn't found the company and it does well, then that's a very important thing. (Tesla)



Why would it matter whether he technically founded Tesla? He basically built it from scratch regardless.

Also What does that have to do with him (supposedly) being a talented engineer? He’s a brilliant strategist/visionary/CEO obviously but Cybertruck was a product of his engineering decisions then.. yeah.. probably he isn’t.


Cybertruck is outselling every EV sold by Ford, seems fine


Right, consumers are often stupid beyond belief and will buy an objectively worse product purely for prestige and signaling to other humans. It's that social part of the brain going off.

That doesn't change the fact the Cyber Truck is an inferior truck to just about any other truck in just about any metric. It's a testament to the sheer arrogance of Man and the failure of modern American education.


Faster than an F150-Lightning

Tighter turning than everyone

Faster charging than Rivian or F150, 94 miles gained in 15 mins vs 83 and 68

Best API obviously

Best suspension

Best ADAS

Lighter than both

Longer bed, larger cargo volume, higher payload and towing capacity than either


Looks like it’s designed by a not particularly talented three year old?

of course not everyone is bothered by that. All the water/environment related issues (I guess you can get the “optional” coating) and the absurd repair costs seem like a bigger issue.

> Tighter turning than everyone

Doesn’t the Hummer EV have a 25% smaller turning radius? Also a removable roof.


Not 25%, but yes, 11.34 vs 12.5, so 9% smaller

There are water/environment issues?




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