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It also doesn't include that a $1.8MM mortgage usually implies a $2.25MM house that you just put down $450k on.

The median price of American homes is $400k. In California it's $860k. In the Bay Area it's $1.5MM. You can get a house in the Bay Area for under $1.8MM, but you need a $360k down payment, and you will likely face a tradeoff between good schools, safe neighborhoods, being within walking distance of anything, and having a nice sized house. Outside of NYC, these numbers are the upper echelon. If you disagree, you have very expensive taste masquerading as requirements.

On that point about home sizes, Americans are frequently surprised how much less space Europeans are fine living in.



The parent post started this by saying:

> 6k mortgage for a modest house in any decent area in US

I really dont consider a $1.8MM or $2.25MM house to be 'modest' by any stretch of the imagination.

and then another post after that said:

> 6k a month mortgage for a family of four seems low. It's at least double that in any major metro area.

so $1.8MM for a 'modest' house for a family of four is low in the US?

Im so confused, are people just so out of touch with reality that they think these prices are normal, or have I missed something along the way?


You are confusing 6k and 12k mortgages: the former is to buy a modest house today in most decent areas in the US. The latter is to buy a modest house in Bay Area, where a large fraction of hacker news users reside.

A “modest” house to me is a median house: around 2k sqft, run-of-the-mill construction, cheap materials, 8 feet ceilings, <10k sqft lot.

This is the reality in good parts of US.




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