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You know, I had a thought about this - why not make it an option to show me the 5 most recent new submissions on the bottom of the index page (e.g., the top 25 plus 5 latest). It's not a perfect solution, but at least I'll be aware it's there.

I understand that could lead to some nasty gaming of the system though, just the first idea I thought of.



or a little DSL for us to specify what we wanted on our homepage.

  (def homepage (page
                  (top 10)
                  (newest 5)))


I'm planning to start letting people use code snippets to customize stuff, actually.


Can we customize the ranking algorithm? Pretty please?


Awesome, this would give hackers a great way to show off their skills!


  <FRAMESET rows="66%, 34%">
      <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/">
      <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/newest">
  </FRAMESET>
No? Not quite what you were looking for?


I prefer:

<FRAMESET cols="66%, 34%">

    <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/">

    <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/newest">
</FRAMESET>

Makes it easier to read because Y content is usually skinny and most new screens are wide. :)

edit: but I'm splitting hairs...


A little ugly, but a good 80% solution =P

Reminds me of this article -

http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Complicator_0x27_s_Glove...

;)

Gloves!


Now that I think about it, I am pretty sure something like this is possible with some greasemonkey/iframe magic

Still not a perfect solution as not everyone will install it - but a decent start eh?


Done!

HN Toolkit: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25039

Install and turn on the 'Show new items at bottom of main page?' option.

Let me know if you have problems.


Cool! I installed it, and selected the option - and nothing happens. I still see 30 items at the bottom

Can you tell me the exact URL that I should be seeing it at? I see toolkit. When I use that I see the search YC buttons etc, but when I select that option specifically, nothing happens.

I am assuming http://news.ycombinator.com/ is the main page you are referring to right?

Edit: SOLVED. http://news.ycombinator.com/news - now all is well! =)


Doh! the /news link is what I have bookmarked, so I didn't even think about just the index. Source has been updated to fix that.

Thanks!


Just an update on this... the additions I made last night broke some stuff (and I apparently didn't test it well), so please update (as of now) to get fixes.

Specifically, splitview got broken and a couple other little things were acting funny.


  s{
    var blacklist = GM_getValue('hndomains', '');
  }{
    var blacklist = GM_getValue('hnblacklist', '');
  }x;


Yeah I changed the name of that a couple versions back. If you want your old blacklist back, you can do something like:

  GM_setValue('hndomains', GM_getValue('hndomains', '') + ' ' + GM_getValue('hnblacklist', ''))
  GM_setValue('hnblacklist', '')
And then upgrade to the new version. In the future I'll try and be more conscious of upgrades when I change something like that.


I don't use the script. I'd just thought that 'hnblacklist' would be a better name.


Hey, I kinda like that idea!


I like the reddit layout for this. At the top show the latest submission, granted the reddit thing is a little bit more complicated...but for HN you can get away with just showing the latest entry since there are so few new submissions


I've seen that increasingly they have been streaming by


Actually, i barely use the main page, as lots of stuff on that I've likely seen before. I come in, scan the top few items on the main page, and then jump into new and go through like two or three pages (until I'm caught up).

So for my personal preference, I'd probably be interested in seeing the newest stuff, and then maybe a column for 'most popular'.

I know it's unconventional, but...


How about extra karma for the people who take time to up-mod new articles that eventually 'make it'?




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