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You keep missing the point and it’s the reason that liberals are out in the wilderness.

Look up Clinton and Sister Soulja and what happened. He was a good enough politician to know that he had to distance himself from policies that the middle found offensive to win elections.

The first job is to get elected. We see the same now with what’s happening in California. Texas is gerrymandering the hell out of Texas. But Newsome is getting push back when he is trying to do the same. Republicans know how to win elections. Democrats are high on “ideals”.



Texas gerrymandering won’t even help them in the long run. Again you are missing the point. The pendulum will just swing back twice as hard. Whether Republicans gerrymander an already deeply red state or not. Newsom is getting push back as is Hochul, so what? Doesn’t seem to be actually stopping anything.

I think you’re smoking something if you think Democrats are high on ideals. There is no democracy if you gerrymander out your opponent. That’s why maps are redrawn every 10 years. So Republicans aren’t winning elections for democracy or to shove it Democrats. They’re gerrymandering to remove your right to even have a choice or a democracy. You’re stuck knee deep in a culture war designed to keep you too preoccupied to see this.

Keep kicking and screaming about social posturing issues that go no where.


Texas has been going blue now any day now for 30 years. A deeply red state still had blue districts that could turn the house blue. Are you suggesting that we just turn the other cheek?

Gerrymandering is easy for Republicans since Democrats cluster in cities while Republicans are in rural areas and the burbs.

Democrats and leftists are high on ideals not understanding that this country has never cared about ethics or ideals. Despite what Michelle Obama says, this exactly who we are. It’s who we have been since slavery, Jim Crow laws that my still living parents grew up in, the Willie Horton ads, and the “Hatishs are eating your pets”.

Social postering hasn’t gone anywhere. In 2025, my 6 foot 2 son is still going to be looked at with suspicion by the police for living in a neighborhood “he doesn’t belong”. Even though he’s lived in the upper class burbs all of his life.

It’s Democrats focus on ideals that keeps them in the wilderness. They lost every single swing state last year. Your solution is just to do more of the same.


I never suggested doing more of the same. Democrats lost swing states not because of your “they only govern on vibes” bs you keep trying to push. They lost them because low information voters make up most of those states.

People just vote which ever way the economic wind blows. Trump was able to lie to a lot of people and they ate it up. That will cause the pendulum to swing back. Your suggestions about some Democrat legacy of not getting it right when they’ve mostly kept power in the last 40 years is a romanticization of these times and how you think the rest of the country operates.

It’s Republican focus on taking advantage of the lower classes that keep them in the wilderness. That’s why they’ve lost elections in previous years. Your suggestion is to just do more of the same.

Your insistence that Democrats need to just do the things Republicans means that there would be no difference between political parties.

Perhaps one is nicer than the other, but it doesn’t mean that people want meaner people governing over them. My mother votes Red every time because she’s a low information voter and believes in the Republican party because thats how she’s lived her whole life. It has nothing to do with Republicans being “clever” and willing to say “retard”.


And once again, you aren’t focused on dealing with the facts on the ground as they exist. You can blame low information voters or anything else. But you don’t win elections by turning a blind eye to reality.

Conservatives love the fact that Democrats won’t fight dirty and are letting states like Florida and Texas run roughshod over them and still think they are in the 60s where MLK told people if they let the police beat them long enough and march “peacefully” it will change hearts and minds. What did BLM change? What did “going high while they go low” change?

But the DNC is focused on having equal representation of males and females and making sure the right pronouns are on a committee


> But the DNC is focused on having equal representation of males and females and making sure the right pronouns are on a committee

No they did not. DEI was one policy out of many that went through with Dems during the last admin if you think that’s all Democrats are focusing on you have drunk the Trump-brand-koolaid and have no good faith arguments here.

As for BLM it changed a A LOT. Again you are demonstrating lack of evidence and understanding of those events. I’m sure you stayed inside and criticized the people protesting. I marched during that time in Nyc. And we accomplished the following:

- Repeal 50A - a law that protected police officers at the state level from taking any legal repercussions for their actions

- Forced NYPD to stop using stop and frisk plain clothes units

- made police choking and strangleholds illegal

- force Nypd to stop using kettle tactics

- Removed the NYPD from school security duty

- spread awareness and helped change the narrative about violent police corruption

BLM was such a big deal that people like you scramble to list any benefits. This is your lack of knowledge and understanding of people that keeps you pushing for more violence. The type of cognitive dissonance that makes you say “BLM was nothing, I hated it” when that couldn’t be farther from the truth.

And since your entire argument is based around some generalization and inability to separate Potus admin from a political party. And political party from voters, I do not see any reason to continue this discussion based on false bad faith generalized premises.


Really?

Let’s look at NYC.

https://www.nyclu.org/data/stop-and-frisk-data

> While comparatively fewer stops occurred during the de Blasio administration – nearly 135,000 – enormous racial disparities have persisted every year. In 2022, the first year of the Adams administration, the NYPD made over 15,000 stops, reversing the downward trend of stops occurring during the de Blasio years. In 2024, the most recent year for which data is available, the NYPD made over 25,000 stops, a fifty percent increase from 2023 and the largest number of stops since 2014

https://policeviolencereport.org/

But Democrats still want us to sing old negro spirituals in the street like “We shall overcome” and pray that we can change hearts and minds.




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