Homosexuality was in the DSM. As was hysteria. Because they looked at clusters o...

dns_snek · 2025-08-27T20:00:48 1756324848

Those things make it flawed, not worthless. Your "precise" point was that the DSM-5 is worthless, please don't move the goalposts now.

moi2388 · 2025-08-28T05:57:04 1756360624

Now you are moving the goalpost. I said that the DSM when not providing the underlying physical processes is worthless.

I stand by that. In fact, historically whenever they did this they caused a lot of harm.

dns_snek · 2025-08-28T15:05:39 1756393539

> Now you are moving the goalpost

I would beg to disagree: "The DSM is a bunch of nonsense. As long as [...], it’s worthless."

> DSM when not providing the underlying physical processes is worthless.

And when does the DSM ever provide the "underlying physical process"? It certainly doesn't for ADHD or any other chapters I happen to have read, which would make them worthless according to your criteria despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

And while I haven't read all 1000 pages of the DSM because it's not exactly my idea of a good time, I don't think it provides that kind of information in any chapter because we simply don't understand these disorders to that extent, as your original comment correctly observed.