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> I think people often underestimate how, for dad's in particular, there's a massive need for this.

One of the things that really drove it home for me was going on r/daddit and seeing post after post of dads with young kids talking about how lonely they are.

In the scenario of the "working dad, stay at home mom" + elementary age kids, it's REALLY tough b/c moms can socialize during school hours whereas the dad is only available from 5-6pm onwards which coincides with dinner/bed time.

Some tips for the above:

- Have regularly scheduled "hang out with friends night". Lot easier to manage than "hey, can I hang out with my buddy tonight?"

- Do "swaps" e.g. where after kids are in bed, dad A hangs out with dad B at house B, wife B hangs out with wife A at house A (so you don't need to get a babysitter)



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