Tesla seems 100% fucked to me. They clearly can't compete against BYD and a comp...

nickff · 2026-01-03T00:20:26 1767399626

The "Big Three" US automakers have relied on (less obvious) sanctions since the 1980s, which may not be the best strategy, but they still exist.

apublicfrog · 2026-01-02T23:33:18 1767396798

Have you driven a BYD? They're... fine. Tesla is a much better car, BYD is a pretty average and they're within 15% of the same Tesla in price.

paxys · 2026-01-02T23:38:14 1767397094

It isn't within 15% of Tesla in price. Not even close. BYD models start at like $10K, and the cheapest BYD Sedan is $15K. The cheapest Model 3 meanwhile will be around $35-40K depending on the inventory around you.

apublicfrog · 2026-01-03T00:01:55 1767398515

I just checked and if we're doing like for like the cheapest BYD Seal is $50k AUD (510km range, 0-100 in 7.5). The cheapest model 3 is $59k (520km range, 0-100 in 6.1). So I guess closer to 20%.

If you're comparing the Atto 1 it's $26k for 200 range, 0-100 in 11.1. Not really a fair comparison.