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When they released GPT-4.5, it was miles ahead of others when it comes to its linguistic skills and insight. Yet, it was never at top of the arena - it felt that not everone was able to appreciate the edge.


4.5 was easily the best conversationalist I've seen. Not as powerful as modern ones but something about HOW it talked felt inherently smart.

I miss that one, is 5 any better? I switched to claude before it launched.


No, GPT 5.x are very unlike GPT4.5. GPT 5.x are much more censored and second-guessing what you "really meant".

When it comes to conversation, Gemini 3 Pro right now is the closest.

When I asked it to make a nightmare Sauron would show me in Palantir, and ChatGPT5.2 Thinking tried to make it "playful" (directly against my instructions) and went with some shallow but safe option. Gemini 3 Pro prepared something much deeper and more profound.

I don't know nearly as much about talking with Opus 4.5 - while I use it for coding daily, I don't use it as a go-to chat. As a side note, Opus 3 has a similar vibe to GPT 4.5.


> something about HOW it talked felt inherently smart

The thing was huge. They were training the thing to be GPT5, before they figured out their userbase to too large to be served something that big.


No replacement for displacement, except applied to LLMs and raw parameter count.




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