what makes you think they aren't?

The nuance here is that most Iranians favor regime change, but majority of them don't want it to come via US/Israel-led change.

You've said this several times on different threads today. You're smuggling in a premise nobody else was discussing. The protest movement is huge. It is not "US/Israel-led". We don't even reach the question of whether the "majority wants US/Israel"; I'm sure they don't!

> smuggling in Your response seems to elicit you have some pre-informed opinions on this that my comment has irritated you. I'm not smuggling anything. I'm making a comment on an open forum.

> The protest movement is huge Source? How big is it? What % of the Iranian population is protesting?

> It is not "US/Israel-led" Source? We have reports to the contrary, and given the amount US and Israeli politicians are leaning in to the protests, notwithstanding their constant talking points on escalating things with Iran, it's not beyond reasonableness to suggest there is outside influence.

I was merely providing a talking point, as the general theme in the West is that US forcing a regime change is a good thing. I'm merely reiterating that it is not (based on historical regime changes the US has been involved in), and that there is good reason to believe majority of Iranians don't want a regime change if it's US-led and not a real democratic outcome.

Again: it's a protest movement, not an Israeli invasion. Your last sentence continues the premise that there's a live question about "US-led regime change". No there isn't.

It would be one thing if you were arguing that it was, and presenting evidence. But this is just innuendo.

Are you really trying to trutherize the protests themselves? We believe our lying eyes.

This is a deeply buried thread nobody is reading anymore. I don't think there's anyone here to convince but me.

I asked for evidence, and you can't even provide it. Hold yourself to the same standards you expect of others.

You're right, I'm not going to provide you evidence for this, my claim is that there's no need for me to do so, any more than I need to provide evidence that the sun rose this morning. Again: there's nobody here but me and you at this point, so there are no points to score.

It would be totally reasonable for you to break off this thread at this point (I normally would too), but if you want someone to talk to that isn't susceptible to wishcasting in either direction on this news event, I'm here for you.

I won't continue, but it's great you clearly highlight your hypocrisy, and proves my thoughts on how people in the West get so easily led by their governments and media.

"no need for me to do so" or because you just can't? I'm not waiting for an answer. Just ask yourself that. Because at the moment, your methodology doesn't seem to be truth seeking.

I don't even understand the point of writing something like this. Did you think you were going to call me names and I was just going to internalize that and shrivel up? I disagree with what you're saying. I do not find you persuasive. If the existence of people who disagree with you is that destabilizing, I think you have some soul-searching to do.

On the other hand, if the reason you're engaging on HN is to evangelize a particular geopolitical position, I can imagine disagreement is more problematic, but you should know that's an abuse of the site.