That's funny because i don't even know a reason to use Linux these days.
And since there is the Linux-Foundation who invests whopping 5% of their money into the Linux Kernel, an opensource alternative is always good to have.
I’m a big fan of the BSDs, but if you’re talking about the desktop, Proton and Steam, WiFi support, and (for me) Niri. You can get Niri working, probably, with some effort, but it comes out of the box on Fedora and Arch. The case of Niri is representative, in my limited experience, of the general case. The dev tooling I use always supports Linux as a 1st class citizen, but rarely supports the BSDs.
Well there is proton and steam on FreeBSD and i can even play Elden Ring and X4 for 2 minutes.....then my machine resets because there is no way to adjust the AMD-GPU fans, so i made a bhyve Win11-VM with passthrough to the discrete GPU and Bluetooth (PS4 controller), and now i can play everything, even my beloved Gold-Box Games with the GBC.
>WiFi support
Yeah that's really a problem, but i just use my Laptop for work so ~6 MB/s is good enough for me, otherwise i would use FreeBSDWifibox it's a hack but hey we use Unixes right? ;)
>Niri is representative
See what Niri is for you, ZFS is for me, i could say that the ZFS-module is representative (on mainstream distros) for Linux and we are both right, FreeBSD and Linux are both not perfect.
>dev tooling I use always supports Linux as a 1st class citizen, but rarely supports the BSDs.
I don't know what "1st class citizen" means, if it works it works, i often use dev-tools where Mac and Windows seam to be the "1st class citizen" but if they work they work.
So yes, there are problems like the Overheating AMD-GPU and Wifi but apart from that i am super happy with FreeBSD, and most important everyone is happy with the OS/Distro choice one made.
For WiFi you should really try bhyve with pass through to an OpenBSD guest. I get wifi speeds comparable to what I got with Alpine(wifibox), but a much nicer environment. Not particularly difficult to setup or maintain.
I don't use a Slack Client but the Web one, and i don't use Spotify.
>Well, there's one reason to use Linux, lol
True, you have a point to compare two proprietary Blobs, oh BTW is Adobe and nearly ever AAA-Game supporting Linux or do you need Wine/Proton (that Windows not emulator) thing?
And to be clear a LinuxJail is actually NOT using the Linux Kernel but the GNU-Userland ;) so no Linux present, Wine is the ~same as a LinuxJail from your viewpoint...but without isolation ;)
Linux (Wine):
Windows -> Linux SystemCall-translator
FreeBSD (Linxulator):
Linux -> FreeBSD SystemCall-translator
With more or less your Words:
>Well, there's one reason to use Windows (Wine), lol - to run all the apps on Linux that Linux doesn't support.
> I don't use a Slack Client but the Web one, and i don't use Spotify.
The comment you were replying to was talking in general terms so I thought you were as well.
> And to be clear a LinuxJail is actually NOT using the Linux Kernel but the GNU-Userland
Huh, that means even less stuff will run. I thought it was more than just an emulation layer.
> To be short, double lol
Not sure what this means. Long and short of it is though the original commenter was right IMO. The BSDs are generally the OS of hobbyists and sometimes contrarians, and it doesn't make sense these days when there are better options in most situations. If often makes as much sense as running Hurd or P9.
OK? Someone said what about apps that only run on Linux, you mentioned you run them in a linux jail.
I like the BSD, mainly Net, but I don't try to force them to be a desktop OS when they are not suited for that, and so don't try running Linux stuff under them.
Besides, even it's it's an emulation layer, you're still basically running the linux userland, and we both know the FreeBSD kernel isn't significantly different or better for most desktop uses.
> Since you know best what makes sense (by not knowing what FreeBSD even can and the difference between emulation and translation) perfect self-report.
Oh, I'm perfectly familiar with FreeBSD. I just don't try and use it as a desktop OS for the sake of being different. You might like it just fine, and maybe you're doing some tinkering with something BSD adjacent so it makes sense to run it. But objectively for most users and cases, it's the inferior option for desktop computing.
You're here trying to argue it's as good or better than Linux, if I haven't misunderstood your position, and I don't think that's something you can support at all. You can give up if you like, but it won't be because I thought linux support on FreeBSD was more than an emulation layer, it will be because you can't support your position.
How's 802.11ax and 802.11av support? Bluetooth work fine? Realtime audio multiplexing? What if you want to run a newer game and the FreeBSD version of Wine hasn't backported enough support yet?
There's so many apps and hardware that won't work well on FreeBSD, or won't work at all, because making it work isn't a priority of the project. That's just a fact.
That's funny because i don't even know a reason to use Linux these days.
And since there is the Linux-Foundation who invests whopping 5% of their money into the Linux Kernel, an opensource alternative is always good to have.
Edit: Correction it's not 5% but less then 3%